Kundalini Is Motive
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Feb 09, 2017
MiBeloved 6 years ago
A reply to a question about motive and kundalini:
What you said is correct that kundalini can be awakened without motive. In fact kundalini is running the physical body anyway, on its own, and it does many functions without our input or will-power being connected into it. But kundalini is motivated basically by an instinct for survival.
The other thing to look at is that motivation is there as urge in the psyche, both as conscious and subconscious urge. For instance when we are infants, the body keeps developing until we reach the stage of puberty and then there is the sexual urge.
That may not seem to be a motivation but it is. It is a motivation to reproduce but a person might argue that it was not deliberate. That is the correct argument and it shows that motivation can be non-deliberate.
Kundalini is all about motivation. Kundalini is motivation.
In kundalini yoga, one makes a deliberate effort to raise kundalini daily as contrasted to having to rise when it wants to or rise just spontaneously. It is just like breathing. Usually we breathe involuntarily and we take the benefits of that by staying alive in the physical system. But an athlete might do extra breathing exercises to derive particular benefits beyond the regular means.
So in kundalini yoga we try to take hold of kundalini and direct it. During the exercises kundalini is raised and controlled. It is directed through the central spinal passage or sushumna.
This does not stop any spontaneous arousals of kundalini. This is in addition to those spontaneous experiences.
Motivation is there in kundalini, so in the kundalini practice, one tries to get a handle on that so that kundalini loses interest in mere survival and other interest of the lower chakras and gains a perspective in the higher dimensions through its infusion into the higher chakras.
kreepamaya1951 6 years ago
As long as one is not doing the practice of trying to direct the kundaalini energy, can it be said that we are more or less being prompted by the non deliberating actions of the kundaalini energy?
It is in a sense to say that the additional effort of raising the kundaalini energy is not an ordinary activity, just as the athlete has to make an extra effort to get the additional air, which gives her or him the needed extra energy in order to act in extraordinary manner.
The regular activities is not enough, there must be additional action on the part of that energy in order for it to be raise out of the dimension of the lower chakras, is that correct?
How does this directing the energy through the spinal passage effect the mind in terms of the vibrational modality of the mind existence?
lower chakras, is that correct?
MiBeloved 6 years ago
kreepamaya1951 wrote:
I concur that regular activities are not enough there must be additional action on the part of that energy in order for it to be raise out of the dimension of the lower chakras.
I also concur that as long as one is not doing the practice of trying to direct the kundalini energy, one is more or less being prompted by urge energies of kundalini.
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Question:
How does this directing the energy through the spinal passage effect the mind in terms of the vibrational modality of the mind existence?
Answer:
To see for yourself that kundalini affects the vibrational modality of the mind’s existence, please get some vodka and take about a small glass of it. Or alternately get some mind-altering drug.
These substances affect the vibrational consistency of kundalini and one immediately notices the effect on the mind and the emotions.
Using air in pranayama practice to infuse kundalini is another way of noticing what can be done to it by infusing it with energy. Liquor is chemical. Air is also a chemical.
To find out what the specific effects are one has to do the practice. It is not a matter of providing proof beforehand. It is really a quaint feature of curiosity, where we sometimes want to have an experience before we have the experience and we want someone to convince us to have the experience by providing the experience before we get under the influence of whatever.
It is like when I was a teenager growing up in Guyana. I knew these three boys who were friends in high school. They used to talk about their sexual exploits. So once I asked them about that, to explain the experiences. They did not respond so I dropped the question but the next day, they told me to meet one of the boys where he would meet his girl friend in a dark bush in a lonesome part of a park.
He was having sex with the girl there. So I stood off a little because this was a new thing to me. So then when he was finished, he instructed the girl not to put on her clothes. She was nude from the waist down. So then he said to me, that I should go in the bush and get the experience.
So I was uncertain about the whole thing but when I finally got enough courage to go into the bush, the girl covered her privacy, stood up and refused to participate.
The point is that unless providence allows you, you cannot introduce another person to kundalini yoga practice and there is no point thinking about it any further.
Just leave someone alone if you find that the person badgers you for proof or if you find that even though the person does not do so, you feel compelled to show them and when you do they are not convinced.
It is a sort of madness when one thinks that one has to liberate others and that one has to introduce others to serious yoga practice.
