Kriya Yoga / The Long Wait
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Date: Posted 3 years before Dec 26, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
There is what is termed as the long wait in kriya practice, where the student waits and waits day after day in meditation for the insight perception consciousness. This is the linking into the chit akash sky of consciousness and the perpetual sure access to that dimension.
Can the student raise kundalini on a daily basis without fail?
If the student can, then can the student reach the chit akash at least once per day?
How long will a student have to practice to reach that stage?
Can the student hold out?
Will the student become frustrated not attaining that goal after months or years of practice?
What of the method?
Is there a competent guru in the vicinity?
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Why did I write about such a depressing occurrence as this?
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It is because of a piece of advice I got from a yoga-guru in the astral world recently, where he said this:
No amount of human endeavor will alter the dimensional layout as it is. Whatever it is, it is. If you cannot control the weather on earth, how do you propose to gain access to what is beyond the physical?
Grabbing the chit akash will not happen. The grabbing action may happen but actually taking possession of that supernatural place, just won’t occur.
As always work with what you have. Take wood and make fire which is so lacking in weight that it goes upwards, a habit which is contrary to the action of the wood involved in the production of it.
Darkness is light. And from that light will dawn the chit akash. But you have to wait it out.
Patience?
Is that in you?
Can it take over now?
Alfredo 3 years ago
Michael wrote:
[This is the linking into the chit akash sky of consciousness and the perpetual sure access to that dimension.]
Alfredo's Query:
What are the sign(s) that one has linked to chit akash sky of consciousness or the insight perception consciousness?
MiBeloved 3 years ago
There is a shift of the energy level during samadhi samyama process of Patanjali, where the energy in the psyche is either fully from the chit akash or is partially from it.
There are flashes of the chit akash. When these happen more and more frequently, then the student gets a sniff for it, and knows what it is definitely. And so the student senses its presence after that on the basis of those sniffs.
How do you know when kundalini arises during breath infusion practice?
Explain that so that a person who never had the experience can understand it?
This is similar to explaining presence of chit akash.
Go ahead though and explain how kundalini is experienced, since you are somewhat proficient in doing it.
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Once when I was a teenager, some friends of mine were explaining to me the pleasure of sexual intercourse, so at the time, not having any recent carnal experience in this life, and having no recall about it from a past life within my memory access, I asked them about the pleasure of it, as to why they spent so much time pursuing opportunities for it, even risking their lives, and risking getting arrested or caught. They simply smiled.
A friend of mine told me once that he had no idea what sex pleasure was until he got married and was having intercourse on his honeymoon night. He was brought up in a Hindu society of arranged marriages, and did not have access to sexual intercourse.
He once told me this very funny story. He said:
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“Madhva (my name when I am with Hindus), you won’t believe it but I had no idea what fucking was. I grew up in the country and our family did not mix with others and I never saw my parents fucking privately. When I was a teenager I saw a man who was hiding behind some bushes. I was in charge of some sheep for my father. We used to graze animals.
“Once when I was out in the backcountry with the animals, I saw this man behind a bush lying on top of a woman. I thought that he was beating or robbing her. So I felt compelled to go closer and see. His torso moved up and down. Her legs and torso were exposed. Anyway since she was not crying or screaming, I went away from there but I remember it and thought that the man was a stupid person for lying on a woman like that.
“Finally my parents married me to a girl but I had no idea what I was to do with her and then on the night when they let us sleep on a bed together, it happened. Just imagine how ignorant I was.”
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Chit akash experience is similar to that. You do not know what it is. You may hear about it or not but still you do not know. Then it happens and still you may not know or you may know.
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Here is another thing a guy once confined in me. This is a guy who lived in an ashram years ago. He was never married. He had no experience with females in terms of sex but he was a regular masturbator. Afterwards he got an opportunity to be with a woman and had sexual intercourse with her. While we were talking I questioned him, because one of the missions I have in this life is to better understand how people tick, especially how their psyche operates, because then I can be better situated to advise them on how to proceed with spiritual progress.
I said this to him:
“Okay, let us discuss this because carnal knowledge is important to understand if you are to make spiritual progress in real terms. Hell, even Adishankara was required to get karmic knowledge. So tell me the truth about it because different people say different things about sexual penetration experience. How does it match up to masturbation which you are an expert in and which you were familiar with until that incidence?
To my surprise he said this:
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Oh it is nothing. Masturbation is a greater pleasure, I am beginning to wonder why people have to be partnered at all, when self sex is better than mutual sex. It was a disappointment. No big deal.
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So in that case we see that someone has an experience which others consider to be the highest pleasure and the person feels that it does not add up to much.
Something similar happens when people experience chit akash where some think that it is not worth a damn.
Some people hear naad sound and get medical treatment to eliminate it.
