In Vitro Fertilization Not Preferred
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 15, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
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Izabela's query:
I am reading your book Sex You! and I have ordered more recently. I try to stay neutral and digest this knowledge but it is challenging, anyway thank you for opportunity to expend my limitations, my question is what is yogic view about in vitro conception?
MiBeloved's Response:
First of all there were stories about this in the Puranas and in the Mahabharata. One of the heroes of the Mahabharata was the respected military teacher, Drona. His name itself means jar or container. So he was conceived not in a woman’s uterus but in a jar.
The villains of the Mahabharata, the Kauravas were a set of 100 brothers who were said to be born from a jar as well, after their mother miscarried their conjoint fetus and then it developed in a jar of ghee.
Of course people are saying that these are myths but the point remains that these are given as actual occurrence by the writers of the Mahabharata and the Puranas.
In the Valmiki Ramayana, there is the story about the origin of the magic boy Rishyashringa. It is said that his father was a human being but his mother was a deer. Subsequently he had two stub horns on his forehead and once when he fondled some women he wondered why their horns were so soft and was on the chest and not on their foreheads.
But tackling the question head on, here is what I have to say. Before we can talk about this we, you and I need to declare our preference. My preference is natural childbirth the old fashioned way. If I have to take a body and I know ahead of time that it was going to be in vitro, I would definitely decline that form.
Any fetus opportunity is risky. Even a person as great as Lord Krishna, even a person as great as Lord Jesus Christ, was subjected to some horrors during their birth and childhood life. Krishna’s father did a terrible thing to protect the infant by switching Krishna for another woman’s child, so as to protect Krishna from being killed by King Kansa. The other child which was a girl child was killed by Kansa and Krishna escaped the trauma of that by his father’s rather questionable action.
Jesus for all he is and claimed to be, was hidden away by his parents here and there because of the threat of Herod, a king of their area, who was told by a medium that an infant would replace him as the King of the Jews. So taking birth the natural way has its problems. Nowadays despite all the medical advancement, there are reports that more children are born percentage wise with autism than ever before. We have pesticides, herbicides, chemicals of various sorts in the bodies of any would be parent and who knows what that would do to a fetus, how it would come out with what diseases or handicaps.
Adding in the in vitro thing is asking for trouble in my opinion, since you don’t know what that will turn out to be and once it is you as that fetus, then you are stuck with that body until it dies or until you can kill it yourself or someone kills it for you.
Personally I do not prefer the in vitro thing.
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Izabela's query:
would you share how to distinguish the subtle body experiences during the practice and how to consciously move the energies there?
MiBeloved's Response:
To develop the subtle perception so that you can see down inside the subtle body, you have to master the pratyahar practice of yoga. So what is this practice., this practice is hinted in the second sutra of Patanjali, which is perhaps his most famous statement:
Yogah cittavrittih nirodhah
This means in plain talk that the normal activity (vritti) of the mental and emotional energy is shut down when the student does a successful yoga practice.
Pratyahar is the 5th stage of yoga, and it concerns sensual energy withdrawal. In the Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna gave a statement about the retraction of a tortoise’s limbs. When the creature is threatened, it pulls in its head and its four means of locomotion.
So when this is done then it is called pratyahar, when we pull in our senses. In our case it means our sensual interest. The tortoise does pull in its limbs but it still maintains an interest in what is outside of its body and then because it is listening to everything outside itself and senses all vibrations within range, it puts out its head and legs as soon as it feel that the course is clear. That is not real pratyahar.
Many students sit, close their eyes etc but they do not shut off their interest because they simply cannot do it. Nature does not allow them to do it. So when a person learns to shut down the interest in the material world, in the world outside of the physical body, then that is the first stage of pratyahar.
When this is done something has to give because the interest energy is still there. It still has to be used. So what we do is we use it to poke around in the psyche and this is how you develop the vision to see internally to see in the subtle body and to see through supernatural senses which then develop in the subtle body.
In chapter 1 of my Meditation Pictorial book there are illustrations of mind diagrams which give instructions on how to develop sensual interest pratyahar. The way it works is that so long as we have a strong focus down into the material world, the psychic senses will remained closed. As soon as we can lift the interest we have in the material world and seal it off, then other senses, supernatural views will come into play.
We did not always have these senses of this particular body. The universe was happening the astronomers say for at least about 13 billion years, so recently within the last hundred years our senses in these bodies developed and our interest is fused into these senses. If we can un-fuse this and put our focus in the psychic direction, then senses would pop out there.
