How to work with Unwanted Thoughts
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Jun 05, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Email correspondence:
To effectively deal with unwanted thoughts one has to find the source of the thoughts, the original cause of the thoughts. This requires a tremendous amount of self honesty because you have to be able to face up to it, if your psyche is the cause.
These thoughts might be coming into your psyche from someone else and in that case it is like an invasion of bacteria into your body or like when a computer shuts down because it is infected by a digital virus.
The first thing to do then is to discover the source of the thoughts.
If you find that the thoughts have come from someone else, then the next step is to expose to yourself your relationship with that other person, even if you are picking up the person’s thoughts through media. It does not matter how you are picking up the thoughts if it is through the internet or through a telepathic transfer from that person’s mind. You need only identify the person and then study the relationship.
It hinges on the relationship, so if you get to the bottom of that you should solve the problem.
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If the thoughts are traced to your own psyche, to our own mind or emotions, then you have to settle up with yourself to know what in the psyche caused the thoughts.
Was it an emotion?
Was it something logical and analytical?
Was it a memory?
So this is the way the process of full thought control is begun.
iamlove44 3 years ago
I can identify the source and have been able to for quite awhile, but it does not seem to eliminate the problem. Do I confront the person, if it seems they are directing this energy toward me purposefully? How do I protect myself from the harmful effects of this. The thoughts are intrusive to my nature and character.
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Once you identity someone else as the source of a particular thought pattern which entered your psyche, then your next step is to research the entry point in your mind or emotion where the penetration occurred In other words if you are shot by an arrow, do not pull it out impulsively. First look to see where it has penetrated.
We all have psychic armor. Thus, if there is a penetration that has to occur in a particular part only. Every piece of armor has its weak points.
What is the emotional relationship which I have with a certain person which gives that person an entry point into my psyche?
Can I adjust that? For instance, if I have a child and the child cries, then I will be disturbed. Because of the nature of the relationship I may not be able to detach myself. So then what do I do, except to try to give the child whatever it desires?
In many instances there is absolutely nothing that a person can do to stop an intrusion. This just happens to be a fact. Knowing when you can and when you cannot is important because then you can become resigned to your fate or you can adjust your fate.
To stop an unwelcomed intrusion, you have to shut the access in your psyche, or turn off the emotional access which the person has to you. But of course you must first determine if you can do this.
Do you have the strength to do this?
Paul 3 years ago
There is another angle, though let me say up front, that I agree totally with what Michael just stated.
If the problem persists, then perhaps the difficulty comes back to the Image.
The image I have of myself
the image others have of me.
the image I have of the image others have of me..
these factors determine what Michael calls the entry point.
if this is detected, THEN, one can inquire:
Is the image of myself under attack?
Is that image real?
Is the image that is attacking me real?
and again, what is the substance of that image?
Will it survive or endure exposure to the light?
and what happens when the image is brought into the light of honesty?
iamlove44 3 years ago
By shutting the access does this dull the senses? I am able to detach from the emotional pain this person is experiencing but at the same time I don't need to be cold either. I gave this person the opportunity to learn as I have to go within and start restoring their core but time and time again they seem unwilling or not ready to start the restoration of the soul. But I cannot just leave because this person is a part of me. What to do? What to do?
MiBeloved 3 years ago
When there is a shepherd, we do of course expect that there will be sheep. So if the sheep strays away, there are two basic methods. The first is to go and find the sheep and lead them back to the protected area. The second is to just sit and wait it out, hoping that perhaps those sheep will become afraid of wandering too far away and will come back to the shepherd where they are safe from the foxes.
In this case, we find that the shepherd is having some heart ache for the sheep and feels responsible for their safety. Okay that is the shepherd. What about the sheep. Does the sheep realize that they need the shelter of the shepherd?
So there is the poem about little bo peep, which runs something like this:
Leave them alone and they will come home and bring their tails behind them.
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On the serious side of this, on the side of responsibility, we have to question you as to what or who has assigned you as being responsible for the said person?
Whosever did that should help you with this?
But if the responsibility begins and ends with you, then we are in real trouble because we will never find a solution to this.
When the sheep feels independent, then their tails go up and they wander away from the shepherd. When they feel dependent, then their tails turn down and they head for the protection of the shepherd.
But here is another new way in which I write this poem:
Leave them alone.
There is no need for them to come home.
Why should they become humble and return with their tails behind them?
unlimitedsun 3 years ago
When I read this inquiry there was no answer yet. But I had gone to work in the meantime, and the site is blocked, so I wrote a reply, but I had to wait to be home to post. And of course in the meantime, it has I am glad to notice been thoroughly and expertly addressed. However, for what it is worth:
Yes, identifying the source in someone else alone doesn't alleviate the problem. Confronting the person wouldn't really help you either, it is not an open example of attack, it is subtle. Ultimately as explained originally it comes down to the relationship. Go more into the details of your relationship with the said individual. Why is this individual sending you these thoughts? You certainly have a good idea. Then, is there something you can do or change in the relationship or in yourself in order to abate these energies. How much do you desire to end the energies? How much are you willing to do for that?
Just like with the example of the computer given originally. You may fix a virus, but if you maintain the same browsing habits, the machine is likely get infected over again, by a different virus. So in the future, someone else might pick the same energy this current problem person is using to reach you.
Ultimately, we can more easily adjust our own attitude, improve our forces, enhance our own energies to where it is harder for others to attain us than it is for us to shut them down, we don't have that much control over other people much less their minds. Just like much easier to beef up your firewall than go after the computer hackers. A police restrain can manage to keep a person at bay, but in the subtle domain a better approach is personal elevation.
A better understanding of the mind can help, and you are advanced enough to pinpoint the source of the mental agitation. Michael's book Meditation Pictorial can assist you with concrete and practical techniques you can use to increase the control over your own mind. Controlling your own mind, understanding better its functioning can definitely allow you to not be as vulnerable, and even in cases of attack you would recover more promptly and not be really so much affected.
