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Healing sick woman in a Hell Hospital

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Date:  Posted 6 years before Nov 23, 2018

 

Jettins 6 years ago

#688 from July 31, 2012 called “Healing sick woman - Lower Astral”.

 

I woke up in the morning and attempted to induce an OBE from the bed. I knew I was going to fall to sleep fast so I concentrated very hard on the idea of an OBE. I must have fallen to sleep in less than 1 minute. I entered a dream and was looking for a bed because I wanted to induce.  I focused on letting go of my body on every exhale and then very quickly felt a sinking sensation in my head area. I stood up very slowly so that I wouldn’t wake up in the physical.

 

I put my fingers through the wall and confirmed my out of body condition. My brother was nearby and I asked him to confirm as well. I had an instinctual knowing that outside was a beautiful day. I walked towards the door and the sky was blue and very beautiful indeed. I took of flying with my brother. I put my body in motorcycle sitting position as I flied because I’ve noticed that I can control very well if I do so (I don’t ride motorcycles in physical life).

 

We went as high as 100 feet and about 40mph. I noticed raining in the distance. I made a turn to stay away from the rain and shortly after landed.  It was a cloudless rain on the beautiful blue sky. Now that I think about it appears the rain functioned as a sort of barrier to get me to turn around and land.

 

I was landing in an open area outside what appeared to be a small town when instantly as soon I as hit the ground there was a scene change. There was a strong sound, a boom, a busting into a new area. Heavy double doors like you find in hospitals where unhinged and blown into the room. The transition was very clear and noticeable to me, so I say to my brother: “this is a good sign, this means we are where we are supposed to be”.

 

It was clearly a hospital. But this wasn’t an ordinary hospital, it was run down and incredibly dirty. The walls were moldy and it looked like it had been abandoned for years. This hospital looked completely trashed out like in the worst of horror movies. I could sense the strong negativity coming out of that place indeed. I walked in and clearly felt my presence to be unwelcomed. I felt strong unshakable confidence and strength inside this place, an intuitive response, an automatic behavior not to become intoxicated with such negativity.

 

The very strong arrival created a sort of commotion in this place. I could feel and hear the “get out of here” input from this place.  Everyone there looked rotten as if dead for weeks. But I knew I had been brought here for a reason. Some of them where lying down in hospital beds inside the rooms, others came to talk to me. A person that looked like a little girl that was no little girl indeed, it tried to touch me and I yield at it “DO NOT TOUCH ME”. This little girl that was a gobbling creature asked another person if my scream was meant for her. I had a very strong intuition of a fragmented psyche coming from this creature. I was not going to be bullied in this place because of the following reason:

 

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In #684 I visited the lower realms. I encountered what I identified as an Argentinian deranged woman in the lower astral dimensions. In short, this woman came after me because as I was going out the window of a very luxurious large early 19th century home I accidentally broke the glass of the window as I was getting out of that place.  She followed me outside and said to me with a very angry voice:

 

Woman: you didn’t follow the rules!

 

Me: there is a reason for this; I am still in my physical body (implying why I didn’t know “the rules”)

 

Woman: You think you’re just going to get off like that?

 

She inserted her hand in my heart and started to squeeze. This scared the shit out of me, for some unusual reason I was acting like a pussy, begging her not to “kill” me. With the level of hate this being had, if it had been in physical reality I would have been murdered.  I shifted into another state of being, in other words I disappeared and re-appeared in a bed, I could still feel my heart being pressed and the voice of the woman in my mind. The voice was faded as if far away but the connection to her was still present. This freaked me even more because at that point I thought that I had awakened and the woman was really killing my physical.  I felt an invisible hand touch my back, I knew it was in my support so I grabbed it and awoke.

 

This experience was a few days ago and I have done some thinking about it since it happened. I wasn’t going to be bullied like this again, to have that level of fear is highly uncommon for me these days. It appears to me that I was somehow influenced by the entire scenario, maybe the guilt for breaking the window contributed for the overall sense of weakness. Whichever way it may be, the weakness was there and was completely unacceptable to me.

 

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Back to the hospital:

 

There is no doubt in my mind the previous encounter changed the way I roll in the lower astral realms. There is no love, there is no oneness, there is none of that connectedness rap in these places. Everyone appears to be on their own and they will try to kill you and torture you for any reason. A fucking hell indeed, nevertheless these beings are suffering and for whatever reason they will perpetually suffer and block themselves from receiving needed help and love.

 

I walked into one of the rooms and saw a woman nearly rotted away and had the following conversation:

 

Me: what hurts (very commandingly as if I owned the place)

 

Woman: my hands

 

Me: let me see this (I grabbed her arm forcefully)

 

Woman: Noooo, leave me alone (trying to pull her arm away, but she couldn’t because I held it firm)

 

She was missing 3 fingers as if they had rotten away and fallen off. She also had deep cuts on the palm of the hand the look incredibly infected. This person must have been a methamphetamine addict of the worst kind in physical reality.

 

Me: I am going to try to heal you, shut up (pulling her arm hard to a stable position)

 

I poked a hole in my palm to attempt to use my inner light to heal her. I noticed I had no inner light in this place as oppose to other dimensions where creating a hole in my astral body created the emanation of light.

 

Me: There is no light here (thinking)

 

Thinking about it now this place was a type of Hell indeed. There was nothing else but suffering, anger and impotence. It was obvious why higher level healing properties in this dimension where non-existent. So it occurred to me to try something else. I was to use light from another source. I grabbed a lamp that was turned on and I curved my hand to use it as a type of magnifying glass for the light. The deep cuts in the hand started to smoke away and her hands healed.

 

I dumped her hand in a bucket of water with baking soda to accelerate the healing (I do not know why I did this or had the baking soda).

 

Me: I will heal you with two conditions, do you hear me? (Very commandingly)  

 

Woman: Yes (at this point the woman had started to feel the benefits and wanted me to continue)

 

Me: Number 1. You tell everyone around here that I did this, you hear me? Number 2. You tell them that I healed you.

 

At this point I said these words because I wasn’t going to be bullied in these lower realms again. I continued doing the healing with the light (which was quick), a few more times until the hands were completely healed and clean. I stood up and walked out of the room. I turned around one last time to see her but she had changed, her entire body had healed. She didn’t look like a rotten corps anymore; she looked like a healthy and clean 60 year old woman indeed. She had her eyes wide open and looking straight at me with a surprised look in her face.

 

Me. What did I say to you? Say it! (Very commanding)

 

Woman: Tell everyone around here that you did this

 

Me: And number 2?

 

Woman: That you healed me.

 

Me: Number 3 is just a suggestion. There are a lot of people out there that would like to help but if you don’t let them they won’t come here.

 

Woman: nods her head.

 

At this point I realized the healing was only temporary. True healing needed to be done from within her psyche. If this is not done she will fall back into their previous state which is what created it in the first place. The being wasn’t accepting help but was glad to receive it. Even though it was temporary, it could set the stage for the beginning of an inner healing process. Having been shown care in a domain where no one will do so, where few human beings would roam without screaming out in fear could have been exactly what she needed for a new start.

 

I woke up.

 

I realize now that a dead individual in such a place would have serious difficulty with the emotional stability required to be able to do this. Anyone staying there for an extended stay would become contaminated by this physical and psychological hell. Even the visitors have to be prepared by being mentality strong or experienced. I was undeniably put in this place by higher guiding forces. Is this the reason why I was brought here? It was indeed. The most learning comes from being able to measure one's character.

 

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Another thing to note is that not all lower realms are the same. In this particular dimension people where not interested in the well being of others, anything can happen and can happen fast. Some dimensions are about "you play nice, and I play nice", but this wasn't one of them. It doesn't matter what you might feel or project, if they don't want you there they will show it.

 

This is a good example of negative beings, I will get into demonic beings in another post.

 

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I stood up very slowly so that I wouldn’t wake up in the physical.

 

I put my fingers through the wall and confirmed my out of body condition.

 

MiBeloved's Response:

For advanced practice, this procedure is a no no. In advanced practice one should not expect to be able to put one’s fingers through a wall because that is done based on the physical body’s inability to do that in reference to the astral form. But the astral form usually does that when it is in an adjacent parallel world which is a take off or partial copy of the physical world.

 

Advanced practice means no reference to the physical. The yogi works in inSelf Yoga to free his psyche from this reference tendency. Thus when out of the physical in the astral, he no longer checks to see if something is happening which provides a clear contrast to the physical experience.

 

There should be confidence in the astral body without having to check and double check it.

 

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Jettins wrote:

The very strong arrival created a sort of commotion in this place. I could feel and hear the “get out of here” input from this place. Everyone there looked rotten as if dead for weeks. But I knew I had been brought here for a reason. Some of them where lying down in hospital beds inside the rooms, others came to talk to me. I person that looked like a little girl that was no little girl indeed, it tried to touch me and I yield at it “DO NOT TOUCH ME”. This little girl that was a gobbling creature asked another person if my scream was meant for her. I had a very strong intuition of a fragmented psyche coming from this creature. I was not going to be bullied in this place because of the following reason:

 

MiBeloved's Response:

It is said that fools rush in where wise men fear to tread which means that one should not go to certain places because entry therein carries certain risk. For instance suppose you know that there is an incurable strain of TB. Now if there is a quarantined ward in a hospital with these TB patients and you are told that entry therefore carries with it a 95% contraction rate, would you go into that place?

 

Astral diseases can pass from one person to another. One should avoid going to such places. It is best if one aspires to tour the higher astral heavens and leave aside these lower zones.

 

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

It is best if one aspires to tour the higher astral heavens and leave aside these lower zones.

 

Jettins' reply:

Yeah, but since I was brought there I might as well make the best of the stay, if this is even possible. I don't like those places and would not like to visit them, but I know why it happens why I visit them. This is OK because it will not be a permanent stay in these areas, it is simply to understand them. I know I won’t be contaminated by a disease in such areas, don't ask me why I just know.

 

I will be doing this hopefully and god permitting for the next 40 years, the best and most interesting experience are waiting. They are waiting for me to decide when to have them. There is no rush in my part. It's uncommon, people would rather jump into oneness if they get a chance. But I want to experience the full spectrum. There is a reason for this, but I will not get into this until some years later in this forum.

 

MiBeloved 6 years ago

My job is to alert you!

 

Who is talking about oneness?

 

The higher astral regions are locations just as the lower astral places are.

 

What we are after is clarity and increased subtle perception, not lack of perception and conclusions of oneness based on that.

 

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The other thing you have to be careful about is that you do not leave a trail for those lower beings to come back into the earth region and bring with them their astral diseases. They will follow your energy back if you are not careful and even if their condition does not jump over into your psyche, it may jump into others.

 

Sometimes after visiting a TB ward, a man might take the disease on his clothing to some other place and cause people to be infected even though he has some resistance.

 

Is he responsible for that or not?

 

So I am telling you to stay away from these places.

 

Some things are better left unknown.

 

If I am not going there why are you?

 

Just for curiosity sake or for the want of something better to do?

 

You think that the force which is pulling you to these places has your interest more than I do?

 

The other thing is that my instruction does not have to make any sense whatsoever for you to follow it. Don’t be like a child who thinks that every instruction it gets has to make rational sense to it. So the parent says, do not go there and the child feels that unless the parent explains every last detail why, it should go there just to see this or to see that?

 

But if you have no confidence like the child, it does not mean that you are not expressing confidence. It means that you have confidence in some other influence. But is that influence actually advising in your long ranged interest?

 

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Who is talking about oneness?

 

Jettins' reply:

Not you of course, other people.

 

Your alert is very much welcome.

 

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MiBeloved wrote:

You think that the force which is pulling you to these places has your interest more than I do?

 

Jettins' reply:

I know you have my best interest and I appreciate it. I am the force, I am the influence, this will change. 95% of my experiences are on the other end of the spectrum. There is no need to fear, what needs to be done for my well being will be done in anticipation. It's a process, it will turn out very well. I'll make sure of it. I am not like a child, if anything I am the exact opposite.  It is the general public that behave like children.

 

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