Dying Man Transfer
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 10, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Email Correspondence:
Someone’s dream:
I was in a small hospital room with dimmed natural light and no perceived windows. I was standing and leaning back on the wall and my wife was to my right sitting down on the foot of the hospital bed. Her dad was to my left in a chair facing the hospital bed. In the bed was an old man who appeared to be ready to die. His eyes were dark as if inactive or blind at this point. He was taller (maybe 6' or more) and not skinny but slim with shades of former athletic ability evident. He mentally verbalized to all that he was very tired. It seemed that he was only holding on to life because we were there visiting him. Then my wife's dad started speaking some words that I don't recall in order to acknowledge this and release him. As he started speaking, my wife and I began to spontaneously weep and then the alarm rang.
Note: My wife is ovulating now and we are trying to conceive a child. So just a notion, but based on the precise timing...could this be someone trying to get a body? Another notion...the guy on the hospital bed looked a lot like myself in physical resemblance...could it be me? I don't think so since my father-in-law and wife appeared to be of the same age/appearance as today.
MiBeloved’s Response:
This is a normal occurrence. In fact it is standard when for man and wife or even for unmarried sexual partners, that their ancestors are bargaining for bodies through them.
The ancestors have merits in the life of a couple and therefore they instinctively reach out to young couples who are related to them either on the wife’s or husband’s sides.
In that astral situation, the old man must be related to your father in law or is a family friend of your father in law. As that old man reaches out for help, the only thing your father in law can do is to help him to get medical health for recovery. But if that pans out and it becomes evident to one and all, that death is the nature’s solution for this, then everyone has to look elsewhere. So the father in law will look to his daughter and to her spouse or to his son and son’s spouse or to any other young members of the family whom he has a relationship with. He will then try to transfer the old man’s request to him to those young people.
They are the ones who have the new life for the old man.
Thus on the basis of the father-in-law’s merit in the life of his daughter, that soul of the old man may be transferred into her psyche at the time of passing from the body. Then later he will be transferred into her spouse’s body and then in a productive sexual intercourse, he will be transferred back again into the daughter’s body for fetal development.
In this way the old man will get what he wanted which was physical life.
Details of how this takes place is in the sex you!, which should be read over and over until this is integrated into one’s outlook and awareness.
The main thing is to keep tracking the subtle body as to where it goes after leaving the gross body at death, as to whose feelings it fuses into and as to what happens to it, until it again gets an embryo which is formed with it as a subtle blueprint.
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Email Follow-up by dreamer:
3 hours after my dream, my wife's grandfather passed away. He died peacefully without pain. This is certain proof for me of the invisible link. No amount of belief can replace the real experience and this was a direct connection. My wife had told me the day before that he was expected to only live for a few more months but the real timing was perfectly aligned with my dream and I am convinced that I saw him shortly before death. The question for me is why this tunnel only opens up at the time of death? What's the mechanism for that and I suppose I need to dig back in to the sex you! book for more information.
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More from dreamer on tunnel concept:
I was only speaking of the tunnel metaphorically. I only recall my presence in the hospital room (it just materialized in my mental awareness) and the timing was perfect that my alarm clock rang at the exact time when this was taking place. Otherwise I cannot guarantee that I would have recalled it, but there's a good chance I would have because I was about to start crying and I usually will remember an emotional event like that. I see it as a tunnel of energy that allows me to perceive this at the moment of his death...but we don't even share the same bloodline so I would expect this from my grandfather but not from my wife's.
MiBeloved 6 years ago
As soon as you begin to take services from someone in a conjugal relationship, you are automatically taping into that person’s bloodline and you are immediately under obligation to that person’s ancestry. You are automatically karmically committed because you are taking services from that person which is the same as taking services from that person’s ancestry.
Before a person grows up, as we say, that person has to take many services from parents and relatives, and so if you get services from that person, you are taking help from their ancestry under obligation.
The other thing that happens is that a spouse is frequently overpowered by the relatives of his or her partner. This happens because of the strength of social activities of that family. These strengths are called punyas in Sanskrit. It means that because of certain pious acts, these persons develop a power to command and to take bodies through any person who is in touch with their bloodline.
One becomes owned by the ancestors of one’s spouse just as one is owned by one’s ancestors. It is very technical stuff.
In the story of Ajamil which is in the Srimad Bhagavatam, he called for his son on his death bed when some ghost police grabbed his subtle body and were arresting him for some immoral activity he did during the life of his gross form. What did he do to escape from these astral authorities? He called for his son.
This is the natural way where when we are on our death bed we look to our descendants or the descendants of our in-laws. It is not just a son; it could be a daughter or the spouse of a son or daughter. In this case, the old man was actually calling your father-in-law but the father in law, knowing that he could not help in real terms pushed you up as his representative.
So in a sense, your father-in-law feels that since you took his daughter as a wife, you are committed to their family in this way. Sometimes there is a silent contract one signs when one takes a spouse. That is signed according to the silent demands of your spouse’s family.
It reads something like this:
You can have this woman under these conditions:
……………………………………………..
……………………………………………..
Signed by:………………………..
In the Mahabharata, King Santanu had to make an agreement to get Satyavati as his wife. And by that agreement Santanu’s dear son by the goddess Ganga, Bhishma, had to take a vow of celibacy. These are some very serious matters.
Generally a man ends up with a certain debt to the ancestors of his wife and one sometimes sees hell trying to pay it back.
If you read the sex you! book and did not get this information, then I am sorry about that. I did touch on it there even though I did so without this type of emphasis. What can be done? I tried my best in writing that book and now I have to leave this body soon myself, so what can I say?
There is always more that a person can contribute but time puts a limit on everything and no man can supersede that. When a person feels that he or she did the very best, and when even that is not enough, then there is the realization that this situation will always be insufficient.
