Core-Self as God?
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Sep 29, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
I have just finished a booklet on the subject of sleep paralysis. I am actually hung up on the book waiting for some contributory illustrations by Sir Paul. In any case, there is one thing which I have to put into that book before it is published which is what is called reverse sleep paralysis. I had an experience early this morning which caused me to take a more in-depth look at that condition.
Actually for sleep paralysis it has become known only as a situation of the physical body but the subtle body is involved. It is rare however even for frequent astral projector to experience paralysis of the subtle body when it is away from the physical form in the astral world.
In the usual paralysis, the experience is when the astral body returned into the physical one and the person is unable to move or cause the physical body to rise. That inability is interpreted by the mind as a paralysis.
It really isn’t but that is how the mind interprets it because of the presumption of thinking that the physical body should always respond as the person, as the subtle energies of the person, or as the psychological self of the person. In this usage psychological self means the subtle body in which the self is only one component.
In reverse sleep paralysis, the person finds that the subtle body is disabled while it is outside of the physical form, during an astral projection when the astral body is far away from the physical form. This also causes double vision, meaning vision of the material world and vision of the subtle world simultaneously or alternately in split second shots.
This is further proof that the self is neither its physical body nor its subtle body but that it is wired into the system of these bodies in a seemingly inexplicable way.
Here is what happened:
My physical body was in the city of Las Vegas sleeping. My subtle body was in South America in a place which is an astral jungle area. In that place I was with a relative of my physical body. I was showing him a giant iguana which lives in the area. Right now in that area, iguanas only get as large as 3 feet from tip of nose to end of tail. These astral iguanas were about 15 feet from tip of nose to end of tail. They do not attack astral humans. They are mostly vegetarians. They are however wary of humans.
As soon as the creature saw my relative and me, it moved away. I brought it to his attention. Soon after this I was in an area of South America where the mother of my body is currently living. She is deceased but she has a place in the astral world which she has created.
She was with some other astral people who are also deceased. They were at a church service. These are people who left their last bodies as Christians.
After speaking to my mother and some other astral people, I was again with this other relative where the iguanas were. He did not grow up in South America but he always wanted to be in that situation. He was curious about the environment and the wild life of the area.
We were in an old building which was left behind by some wealthy colonial people many many years ago in the astral domain.
After going through the building, we found the last room in it. There my astral body became very heavy. I could hardly move any part of it. To lift a finger was like lifting an elephant. It was painful but not as in a pain from a wound. It was a pain of having to exert so much willpower to do something which took just a reflex previously.
His astral body was not affected in that way. In fact he lost perception of my astral body because my astral body shifted out of the astral vibrational level he was on. For all practically purposes he felt that I had disappeared even though I was just four feet from him.
At this point I became aware of Marcia Beloved’s body which was lying near to mine in Las Vegas. I could see her body but it was hazy. I then called to her to ask her how she got to that astral place.
This is when there was dual vision where I was seeing into the astral place and into the physical dimension which was far away simultaneously. Both visions were superimposed like if you are seeing two slides, which are shown simultaneously through a projector, one as a layer over the other. In this dual dimensional vision, my point of reference was the astral reality, so the physical perception was interpreted also as an astral reality. Actually there was no physical perception at all, because on the physical side the physical body had sat up and was not looking in the direction of her body, nor were the eyelids of it open. Thus it could not have seen physically.
The physical vision was actually astral vision of the physical body. Or more precisely astral vision of the dense astral energy of the physical body. Since this vision was happening simultaneously with the vision of the astral place in South America, it seemed to the astral perception that her body was in the astral place but it was not. This shows that the astral body is capable of dual perception and that it cannot always sort such multiple perceptions.
Hearing my physical voice inquiring, Marcia called out on the physical side but of course with no perception of anything on the astral side.
This is a case of reverse sleep paralysis where the astral body itself experiences a shut down or a rapid de-energization. This is also controlled by the kundalini life force which makes independent decisions. The kundalini is stationed in the living physical body but it has power over the subtle body even if that body is far away.
Why did the kundalini do this? That is a very good question? Do some research on this and see if you can provide a sensible answer.
Special Note:
The most important part of this experience was not even mentioned above but I will let you ponder over it which is, where was the discrimination during the experience? The discrimination is a vital part of the psyche. It is obvious that the discrimination is not the core-self. But where it is located? Why was it not connected to the core-self during the experience especially to sort the dual vision?
If the core-self is an adjunct in the psyche and if the discrimination is another adjunct as well, how are they connected and disconnected. If the core-self is God how is God deprived of the services of the discrimination? How can it commit sensible actions if it does not have the discrimination? These are the more important considerations here.
Obviously this is not a very powerful God. This guy needs some help from technology.
Marcia Beloved 6 years ago
Michael wrote:
His astral body was not affected in that way. In fact he lost perception of my astral body because my astral body shifted out of the astral vibrational level he was on. For all practically purposes he felt that I had disappeared even though I was just four feet from him.
Marcia Beloved's Response:
This is contradictory. How could Michael's astral body remain four feet from him if he had actually shifted out of the astral vibrational level he was on ?
I will speculate that Michael's body did not shift out entirely from that dimension.
Perhaps Michael's kundalini energy was distributed in the perfect balance between his astral body and his physical body, in such a way that dual vision is the result.
Alternatively, I will speculate that the memory mechanism of Michael's astral body lagged. When Michael was experiencing dual perception of the astral and physical dimensions I will propose that he was remembering the astral place but was actually in the process of shifting back to the physical dimension where his body was resting. His perception of me in the astral dimension was a combination of:
1) memory of the astral dimension and
2) seeing my astral body, which was intermeshed with my physical body, in a blurry way due to his astral body having just that split second re-entered his physical body. The vision was blurry because the astral body hadn't had time to fully align with the physical body.
Thus the dual vision.
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Michael wrote:
His astral body was not affected in that way. In fact he lost perception of my astral body because my astral body shifted out of the astral vibrational level he was on. For all practically purposes he felt that I had disappeared even though I was just four feet from him.
Marcia Beloved's comment:
This is contradictory. How could Michael's astral body remain four feet from him if he had actually shifted out of the astral vibrational level he was on ?
MiBeloved’s Response:
The astral levels are stacked one in the other with each higher level being within the level below it. It is interspaced or existing in the same space at the same time. This means that if you are on a higher plane, you can be existing right in me (conventional use of term me), and I would not even know it.
We are getting some idea of this in fiber-optics where many frequencies are transmitted in the same conduit, all different of different frequencies being carried together.
In the astral world sometimes, you will find that you are right up to a person’s face and still the person is totally oblivious of you. It is because even though you are on a higher plane where you are permitted to perceive a lower level, those persons on that lower plane have no idea of your presence and would consider you to be non-existence if they were told about you.
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Marcia Beloved's comment:
I will speculate that Michael's body did not shift out entirely from that dimension.
Perhaps Michael's kundalini energy was distributed in the perfect balance between his astral body and his physical body, in such a way that dual vision is the result.
Alternatively, I will speculate that the memory mechanism of Michael's astral body lagged. When Michael was experiencing dual perception of the astral and physical dimensions I will propose that he was remembering the astral place but was actually in the process of shifting back to the physical dimension where his body was resting. His perception of me in the astral dimension was a combination of:
1) memory of the astral dimension and
2) seeing my astral body, which was intermeshed with my physical body, in a blurry way due to his astral body having just that split second re-entered his physical body. The vision was blurry because the astral body hadn't had time to fully align with the physical body.
Thus the dual vision.
MiBeloved’s Response:
This is great how you were able to break this down. I would say that you might become a great yogini eventually. You are on the path for sure, especially with sorting subtle perception.