Chanting Om mani padme hum to reach Naad sound
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Sep 26, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
This is from an email correspondence:
Michael a few months ago you mentioned something to the effect that relative to focusing on the Naad sound, that if one was still addicted to the use of mantras, that a certain buddha had informed you that the only mantra that can be employed in connection with the realizing the presence of the Naad is the Om mani padme hum mantra.
MiBeloved's Response:
I do not recall making such a statement. Normally I would not make such a statement. The way to reach the naad sound chanting is to use the Om mantra, just that single sound as a-u-m, doing this while using the nasal m sound which goes up into the brain.
The Om Mani padme hum mantra was originally stressed perhaps by Sri Padmasambhava. I am not sure of this but he is perhaps its originator, having brought that mantra into the human plane from the Tushita heaven. It is said however that Buddha Amitabha gave this to Gautam Buddha.
But that mantra is not centered on Om. It is centered on the core-self being situated in the psyche the way a jewel could be placed in the center of a lotus flower configuration.
Mani (pronounced more like money) means jewels or primitive means of money which was jewels or precious stones. The e ending of the padme word means in the lotus. The hum sound is the end of the placement of the core-self in the central psyche in dominance of the pacified subordinate adjuncts, which put one in a state of Buddha, enlightened existence. In the Patanjali system this is the final kaivalyam when the core self, having segregated itself from its adjuncts, having disciplined the adjuncts and causing them to act in the spiritual interest of the self only, that core self then re-unifies with the adjuncts in the situation which compared to a jewel being situated in the center of a blooming lotus. More or less that is the description of inSelf Yoga.
Please use the search feature on this form and put Om in the box and find my original statements about chanting Om in reference to hearing naad so that you can clear up any mental confusion about what I said.
It would be highly offensive for me to say that about the Om mani padme hum. And I was trained in it in my past lives in Tibet. With the knowledge of it which I am carrying in my subtle body, there is no likelihood that I would say that even if I went out of my mind, which is possible for someone using an old body.
That mantra has nothing to do with just naad listening, so if I said that, then I would have a lot of explaining to do about what I said.
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Query:
When employing the use of this mantra does one chant, while focusing on the area just above the right ear, or does one chant while focusing on the brow chakra?
MiBeloved's Response:
When chanting Om, one should focus on the resonance of the sound inside the head and then when you reach the m part of the a-u-m, then you should be at the back of the throat and the sound should go up into the top center and back of the head. Then when you begin with a again, you will start in the front part of the mouth where that sound is said and then you will move to the middle part of the mouth saying the u sound, then again to the back top of the head.
So this is done over and over and when one stops finally and is silent, one should find oneself in naad sound. If one does not find oneself in naad sound, then one will be in a space like a blank place. Thus one would meditate there.
This instruction is for chanting only the sound of Om by itself without any other Sanskrit words.
There is no brow chakra focus. There is no right ear focus while chanting Om in that way. If you find that I wrote that instruction, please give us a link to that post, so that I can clarify that piece of misinformation.
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Query:
You had mentioned that there was something special about the last syllable or the hum sound, in that it wraps around the naad or something like that.
MiBeloved's Response:
I should not have said that about hum.
It applies to the last syllable in the Om sound as a-u-m, the last syllable being the nasal m sound not the m sound which is made with the lips at the front of the mouth. This m sound is at the back of the mouth so that if you make it and your hands are on your throat (voice box), you will feel it quivering and vibrating even physically.
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Query:
Can you please once again try to explain what makes this particular mantra so unique in that it can aid one in the realization of the Naad?
MiBeloved's Response:
Again the hum sound in the Tibetan Mahamantra which you cited is not for the purpose you mentioned. I cannot be the source of that misinformation. Listen I have chanted that mantra in many of my past lives in Tibet and was a senior lama in some of those lives.
I received that mantra from Padmasambhava Mahayogin Buddha directly in a past life, so there is no way I would use that mantra like that or think about it like that because the memories of it in my psyche do not carry a predisposition for me to regard the mantra in that way.
Even if I came down with Alzheimer; I still would not describe that mantra in that way.
Regarding that Om mani padme hum mantra in that way is an offense to Sri Padmasambhava and would be a grievous fault for a siddha, which, who knows what it will do to his future. I would not want to be in that position.
I am a crazy adept undoubtedly but there is a limit to how crazy I can be. That is the limit of it, where I would not describe that mantra in this way.
When I first heard of that mantra in this life, the Om mani padme hum mantra, it was from Lobsang Rama’s book, I think it was the book the Third Eye. And then even as soon as I saw that mantra, I knew what it meant and my past lives in Tibet flashed in my consciousness. That was back around 1967. So I cannot imagine that I would have said this about that mantra today.
Anyway make a search using the Search button at the menu bar and see if you can find the post you are speaking of.