Breast Energy / Sex Energy
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before Jan 01, 2019
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Last night in the astral world, I met a senior lady who is now deceased and who was about the same age of my deceased mother. There was an incidence in her family where a young man was seduced by an older woman. She wanted to discuss this.
Her point was that in such incidences, there has to be some breach of morality because usually it is the males who take advantage of younger females for sexual exploitation.
She made some interesting points. She said:
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Ideally in a mature female body, the breast energy is segregated from the genital energy by a thin astral curtain. Usually a woman can know that the attraction to a son for instance is not the same as the attraction to a spouse for instance. In the case of a son, the affection is restricted to the breast energy, even though a son is born through the sexual entrance.
The birth of a son through the sex entrance is not a pleasure experience. In fact it may be the opposite for some women. It is more of face-up-to-your-responsibilities experience, where Nature issues a challenge that:
You enjoyed this yesterday. Now face up the result of such enjoyment today.
Initially during a pregnancy at the onset, a woman feels a pulling force from the genitals upwards into the chest area right behind the breasts. This continues in the pregnancy until near the delivery when the infant’s head drops down into the pelvic region.
If a woman uses liquor then something happens where the curtain between the breast energy and that of the sex organ energy disappears. Those two energies then mix unrestrictedly and the sex organ energy takes control of the breast energy for pleasure expression.
This also happens during a sexual intercourse experience, where at a certain point in the foreplay stimulation, the curtain disappears and then the woman loses sight of the breast energy as an isolated mission for nurture only.
It may be that alcohol shatters a woman’s modesty, as does sexual foreplay. An inexperienced girl for instance is equipped with modesty but if there is foreplay that disappears. In that case usually this is under conditions of a male advance.
If we turn that around and consider that a woman makes the advance to a sexually inexperienced male then the question of male modesty does not arise because males are constructed for penetration not for acceptance and submission. So in that case the female must begin without modesty. So was she under the influence of alcohol? Did she have foreplay before approaching the male? Was she naturally a female without any modesty? Or was her modesty absent because of mento-emotional self stimulation?
I really feel that females should preserve their modesty. I feel that is a special gift in their case.
devaPriya Yogini 5 years ago
Fascinating. I agree that females should preserve their modesty. A real challenge in this feministic backward culture/time. Alcohol is so dangerous for anyone to use anytime. I wish everyone would stop completely and forever. It does most certainly bring down natures well placed curtains that protect us from being complete freaks.
Colleen 5 years ago
I don't think that there is a different standard of morality for men and women; both are benefited by being modest and circumspect. In marriage, we are in a socially responsible and sacred covenant, where sexual interaction is sanctioned through love and consideration.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Colleen,
That is idealism. How about a dash of reality mixed in.
Men are different to women in both gender design and psychological design.
The application of morality may look the same in the end but the means of getting there may be quite different for each of the sexes.
In kriya yoga practice, the traditional approach to this is completely useless.
A car is a car is a car to most drivers but if something goes wrong we need to zero in on the particular part which is unique to that particular make of car.
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In terms of modesty, if nature can upturn that at any time, then it is a very unreliable shelter. What happens when it just disappear, what is the person supposed to do then?
Become a magician and make it appear again?
Colleen 5 years ago
Modesty is a quality of soul as much as body, and when a person is true to that quality, the external is just window dressing. Yes, men and women are different; thank goodness. But, don't talk to me about realism, if the reason is to justify. In my tradition, men do not excuse themselves, and as a result their example is a luminous example of purity and love. They will not take the credit to themselves, but give it to God who has transformed their nature. You can call it magic if you want to; I call it miracle.
devaPriya Yogini 5 years ago
Hi Colleen May I ask what tradition you are following?
Alfredo 5 years ago
In a letter that Bill W (Bill Wilson) co-founder of Alcoholic Anonymous sent to Dr. Carl Jung in 1961, a few month before the Swiss psychiatrist passed away, Bill W thanked him for his great contribution to the creation of AA.
Jung did not know it and he was surprised.
He once had treated an American politician 40 years prior, a certain Rowland Hazard, who, ill with alcoholism, has taken refuge under his care for 6 month in Geneva. Mr. Hazard, convinced that he was cured by self-knowledge (intellectual or buddhi knowledge), very cockily prepared his return to the US. At the height of Paris, 2 days later, he was drunk like a skunk. He returned to Jung, now baffled, to be told in certain terms he was incurable.
He later took his story and experiences to Bill W and sobered up through AA.
In the return letter to Bill W, the great Swiss psychiatrist wrote the greatest definition of alcohol ever, as "a most depraving poison".
Jung, a Latinist of the first order, proceeded to define the cure of alcoholism as "spiritus contra spiritum", adding that the name of alcohol in Latin is "spiritus" (Spirits in English), and making the comment that the same name was used for this poison as it was used for the highest religious experience. In this sentence, he was following after William James, who has stated prior that only through a spiritual experience can this depraving poison be made to lose hold of the afflicted soul.
Colleen 5 years ago
AlfredoJi,
Amen. "only through a spiritual experience can this depraving poison be made to lose hold of the afflicted soul."
I think it is true for most things, at least this is my experience.
Errin,
My tradition, like many others, is a net which gathers many kinds of fishes. But, there are those within the group, who with pure intent and integrity of heart and mind, have found themselves enveloped in the grace of God. With them the presence of God is a continuing reality. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
