Boy fiddling with my Mask

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Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 20, 2018

Jettins 6 years ago

Experience #668 from July 19, 2012 called, “Boy fiddling with my Mask”. I sat on my recliner and started to imagine falling on every exhale. I was having particular difficulty focusing my mind, it didn’t want to shut up and control itself. On the other hand my body was very well relaxed; I felt a lightness sensation on the upper part of my body. I remember feeling the same sensations as in the past, when the peak of my OBE was at its highest. If the timing was right, I was able to enter trance states without losing awareness while using the recliner. Today felt like one of these days, where my physical body was primed but my mind was in some horse race somewhere. I mention this specifically because the results were somewhat interesting to me. I was able to enter trance states several times, but because of the lack of focus only until the last and 4th time I was able to finally get my bearings and realize I was entering trance states.

This is a disappointment because from the recliner I’ve never had these kinds of extended issues before. If someone would recommend to me an intense boot camp training to focus the mind for those seriously committed, I would appreciate it greatly.

My body was very well relaxed, I barely felt it. I have no doubt the asanas and the pranayama I’ve been doing consistently helped me to feel my body the way it did. But my mind today appeared to devolve, maybe it’s just a one day thing and it won’t repeat, but since I am not playing here I am not going to take any chances whatsoever to hamper my ability to OBE nearly at will.

Ok back to the story…

I became oriented on my location when I felt myself sitting in the recliner. There was a slight subtle sensation that didn’t totally become aware, but this made it so that I would suspect my state. Because of the concern of prematurely moving my physical body before I was actually asleep, I focused my vision to induce recognizable trance sensations. I felt it as soon as I tried it and it made me aware of my state.

I tried to get up but I couldn’t move from the recliner. I felt someone fiddling with my mindfold mask. I didn’t know who it was at first because I then saw an arm come out from the recliner between my legs and grab me by the abdomen "on come on, not again". I focused my attention on trying to move the hand but then realized this was another barrier. I stopped attempting to get up (In the 3rd quick entry and exit into trance states, I had also felt movement in my mask before I became aware of what was going on).

My room was particularly identical even the mess in the desk was there. I saw a boy standing and looking at the things in my desk, he looked about 12 years old. I say to him: “What are you doing here” I don’t remember what he said. I say to him: “I’ll show you things come on”, “alright” he replied.

At this point I noticed the arm holding me down had disappeared. I got up from the recliner and walked out the door, the boy was walking ahead of me.

The day outside looked like a beautiful summers day, not particularly glowing in vibrant colors, but it was still very pretty to me. I recognize the front yard of the home as being a place that I’ve been or visited before, but there was some difference to it so I said to him: “This is the future”.

In my memory I could remember a small tree being in the front yard, but now this tree was much larger. It made me think that it was a future. I do not know if it’s a future or a past now that I think about it, but it’s a place that I will remember at one point when I find myself in it again. Knowing the nature of these memories if it felt like a place that I recognize, I probably will recognize it again or I will I recognized it before. Confusing? Yes, so many things can pile on top of each other than we can lose sense of the origin of it. If it’s a physical place that I will at one point visit in my existence, if it’s an astral manifestation of memory of a physical place, if it’s the sustained dimension of another individual such as the little boy, or if it’s a combination of all them. All in all, it is of the psyche. Just interesting.

The boy walks and stands in the middle of the street, I say to him:

Me: Why did you go in there?

Boy: I just went in there and saw you with the mask

Me: But do you know I can have out of body experiences, is that why you went in there?

Boy: (doesn’t say anything and looks away thoughtfully)

Me: Do you realize that there’s a part of me in the physical body right now?

Boy: We never left

The day was looking nice and bright

Boy: Can you hold on, I will be back

Me: ok

Moments later I felt myself losing the connection, my vision became black but I still felt myself there, few second later I woke up.

Thoughts

Interesting how in this experience the little boy said “We never left”, to me this would mean we never left the Astral. I won’t trance the experience like other times, but notice how the force let go of me until I focused my awareness to speak to the little boy and the boy not having the knowledge to understand how his intuition affected his decisions.

Because purpose is to prepare, these experiences might yield understatement towards that end.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I was having particular difficulty focusing my mind, it didn’t want to shut up and control itself.

MiBeloved's Response:

I selected this sentence to give you some idea of the method used in kriya yoga or buddhi yoga which is listed in chapter two of Bhagavad Gita.

In this yoga the use of the astral body has little significance if any. It concerns what is going on in the subtle body not what is going on in the subtle environment which the subtle body visits or is aware of. This is done to discover how one can better control the mind and how the psychic organs within it can function more in the interest of spiritual realization.

If I was having the exact same experience, I would have spent more time at the stage of the mind not wanting to shut down. I would have researched then and there the cause of this. After noting that cause, I would check to see what I did which reinforced this unruly mental behavior?

I would check to see the location where that unwanted activity of the mind was taking place.

Once these observations were made I would take steps to reduce my support for the energies or events which empower the mind to be unruly.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

I would check to see the location where that unwanted activity of the mind was taking place.

Jettins' reply:

I've reviewed your meditation pictorial, but I am not certain I know how to find out where it's coming from. I think I might need more experiences of the subtle body type while in the astral realms to create the dimensional perception of where this is coming from. not sure. but I will keep this in mind, at one point I will have the opportunity to look at it from this angel.

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MiBeloved wrote:

Once these observations were made I would take steps to reduce my support for the energies or events which empower the mind to be unruly.

Jettins' reply:

This is particularly useful to me. Today went fine, my dream recall was excellent and my ability to focus was OK. Thanks for the thoughts. I am still getting used to the new heavier routine, but it's doing amazing things for my sleep quality and energy levels indeed. I will keep in this mind so not to give power to incoming thoughts, in time they might get tired of insisting.

Thanks

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