Astral World Forced Association
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 7 years before Aug 07, 2018
MiBeloved 7 years ago
Some associations in the astral world are forced, just as in this physical world, a person is sometimes circumstantially or otherwise forced into certain situation. For instance here where I am in South Korea there is a law whereby, all young men must serve in the military. In the United States in the 1960’s there was also a military draft order in effect and to avoid it some young men left the country. Others shot themselves in foot or arm. Some others pretended to be dope addicts. Some filed a conscientious objection to avoid being drafted.
And it is not that a God came into the world and ordered these unwanted demands. These orders were put down by politico-military people. Even they, even though they are not necessarily divine personages, get a power from providence to enforce certain services.
In the astral world the same thing occurs but there it is obviously due to supernatural power. While in this world, people scoff at the term supernatural and think that it is all superstition. In the astral world, supernatural power is the currency of operations.
In a police state, and even in the so called democratic republics, there is sometimes police power and state power which clamps down on certain citizens. That is a reality and no one scoffs or laughs at it. In fact people begin movements just to check the advance of such restrictions.
In the astral world people try to counteract supernatural power but mostly to no avail. To escape from the force of such power, one either has to take a material body or go to a higher astral world. If one is unable to do either, then one has to put up with the supernatural enforced demands.
Last night I was with a man and his family in the astral world. I got there because one person, whom I used to know years ago, found my name on the Internet somewhere and contacted me. Since that one person contacted me, a series of other individuals from the past, have used that link to find me.
All of them are now trying to get me to do this service or that service in the astral world, all based on the relationship I had with these persons over 30 years ago.
When I was with that man and his family, he used to try to get his sons to do things for him and they all avoided having to do anything. Like usual, children do not like to do anything for their parents. In a child’s body one may see the parent as the stooge. In which case, it is improper for one to serve a stooge, because it should be the other way around. So this man’s children did not like to do anything for him. I stayed with this family for about a year, and I used to be willing to do things. So this man appreciated that.
In the dream, he was asking me to do many things and as I was complying, he was trying to get me to encourage his sons to pitch in. The sons however were not interested. The man kept prodding me to try to get the sons to act in the same way but they were not concerned to lift a finger to do anything for him.
This happens because when one takes a new body one carries from the past life, a resentment for having lost the old body and for having not got sufficient services from the family one was in the past life. In elderly years, one finds that one is hard up to get any services from young persons in the family. Of course there is no such thing as a young person, because it is just a young body with an old person in it. But still one finds that those old persons who now have young forms are reluctant to render one any service, and so one develops a resentment.
Thus when one takes the new body, the subtle form carries that resentment in it and that becomes visible in the new body as a reluctance to do anything menial for the parents.
Unless one changes this tendency in the subtle body, it will keep acting like that in one life after another, because that is the natural mammalian way of its operation, based on the survival tendencies of the naturally designed kundalini which expresses the instinct in these bodies.
Many people whom I have tried to help over the years, do not understand that they are controlled by the kundalini, and so it is hard to get these ideas across to them.
Once one gets a new body, the kundalini has sexual indulgence and status as its primary objectives and so one is not interested in getting anything else. Anyone who stands in the way of one achieving that is regarded as an enemy. Even if a parent takes care of one properly, one still shits on the parent. These are the tendencies in the kundalini life force and until one can comes to terms with these impulses, one will remain dead set on doing things in this hostile way.
I was stuck in that astral dimension for some time, based on the supernatural power of that man and his wife, merely because I stayed as a teenaged dependent with them for sometime some 30 year or so years ago. In the astral world, I was there like a crab in a metal cage. The crab cannot escape because the cage is designed by providence to transcend the crab’s need for freedom.
After a time, I got away. The funny thing about the whole experiences is that no one else who was present there is actually conscious of what is going on. Since they had not developed psychic consciousness, they are not objectively aware of their astral activities. And the man and his wife are deceased, even though their children are still living physically.
Even though they are not objective to those astral experiences, still they got the fulfillment of my services to them in that astral dimension. The astral body and the subconscious psyche operates regardless of the one’s awareness or lack of awareness of what is happening.
I was there in that astral residence with the man, his wife and sons, and the man was trying to enforce his father role upon his sons, while using me as an example of the behavior he required of them. I knew I was trapped there and I just served my time like a prisoner who has no choice in a maximum security prison compound.
These incidences are enforced by the inscrutable power of fate.