Astral side of the WatchTower

Meditationtime Forum Post

Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 13, 2018

Dean 6 years ago

My wife, daughter and I attended a Jehovah Witness church. We drove up to the church and entered into a mega-sized building. It looked like we entered an indoor Roman Coliseum and went directly to the upper level balcony to find our seats. Once my wife and daughter were seated, I walked around to survey the rest of the church. I ended up on the lower level maneuvering, in and out of the aisles while the church members were performing a ceremonial dance in the center of the main floor just in front of the stage. As I watched from the back of the aisle, there were hundreds of church members dancing in a huge circle with their arms interlinked around one another. I recognized some high school and college mates of mine in the crowd. I was astonished to see many of them since I knew they were not Jehovah Witnesses. After viewing for some time, I realized that I had to go back to find my wife and daughter. But I could not find my way back to the upper level balcony, as I went up and down several aisles and in and out several doors. I entered a door behind the main stage, where it seemed to be members of the clergy huddled together talking. One of the pastors walked over to meet me with a very nasty look on his face, which I understood to mean. "what in the hell are you doing here?" I replied, "I attended the service", but his expression did not change. I immediately thought it was because my body was black and he was racist but upon further thought I think it was because I was not one of them (Jehovah Witness). I continued to search for my wife and daughter then started to become anxious. Then I realized that I was in the astral realms and everything would be alright so I became relaxed. Then my alarm went off and I was transferred back to my physical body.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

In a Christian predominant world everyone is supposed to go to church and be a good boy.

What's wrong with you people?

Can't you understand that simple rule?

How can you raise your children outside the mainstream Christianity?

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Dean wrote:

One of the pastors walked over to meet me with a very nasty look on his face, which I understood to mean. "what in the hell are you doing here?" I replied, "I attended the service", but his expression did not change.

MiBeloved's Response:

No talking required in the astral, no translation of ideas into language. The idea is directly transferred into the mind of the target person, without being milled into a language thought.

How is that done in the mind?

What psychic organ usually translates the ideas into a specific language which another part of the mind takes and converts into speech?

Jettins 6 years ago

Interesting, in many experience we get what we put into it, but usually we don't know what we put into it until later. A type of modified mirror effect to learn elements of our psyche. I have these types of experiences too minus the anxious part, there not all fun and interesting.

MiBeloved wrote:

No talking required in the astral, no translation of ideas into language. The idea is directly transferred into the mind of the target person, without being milled into a language thought. How is that done in the mind?

Jettins' comment:

I don't know how this is done, but it indeed does happen. Recently after being more aware of this, I've noticed Astral beings might change their facial expressions just by looking at me and without speaking a word. I know they where reading my thoughts. The way I have been able to do this in the past is not by "reading their mind", but more like sensing their thoughts and without generating language. For example a heightened sense of psychic ability while in the astral realms.

I would have trust my inner thoughts and feelings as correctly sensing of incoming information, but since I am somewhat objective in my approach, I am not certain until in crosses a certain threshold when I simply just know my psychic insight to be of an interesting origin. Otherwise I will have doubt, this is a failure in my part. I have dismissed some ideas that might have given me some input on situations.

When you become lucid Dean, try to communicate this way. You will see that you could better get your point across to affect change, which comes from better expressing your thoughts in a way that the others can personally relate too, especially if you’re in the realms predominantly of the psyche. I do not have too much experience with communicating this way, but it appears to me to be a valid guideline that I should follow more often.

Have a great day!

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins, I am glad you mentioned this:

MiBeloved's Response:

Skeptics are usually stymied by this and it prohibits them from developing psychic perception and that in turns reinforces their doubts and skepticism. But the same people are confident about material existence and about science. They are cock-sure that if they go for an MRI, the doctors will find out what their disease is and will cure them. They are also certain that what the GPS says is exactly correct and when it proves to be wrong, they are silent. They do not go railing on and on about it.

But here is what I have to say right up about this, and I will be very frank and open in making this statement (notice how I reframe your words):

I trust my inner thoughts and feelings as correctly or incorrectly sensing the incoming information, but since I am somewhat objective in my approach, I relax my objective muscles and assume more of my subjective intuition. I harbor no doubts. I take note of my intuitions. I remain reserved about that and wait for actual manifestation and that is the way I learnt to gage the accuracy of my subjective perception.

As a child I had to do this to learn to walk and do other things because my body was ungainly and I could not figure out its center of gravity. I used to fall regularly but over time, I learned how much to trust my intuitive instinct and also how to objectively gage distances.

Even though intuition on occasion is not that accurate, we still should not distrust it altogether. And in fact the truth is that we must use it just as we take help from the medical profession and science even though these fails and will fail us in the final analysis.

Dean 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

Dean's response:

I appreciate the advice, I am working on becoming lucid earlier in the experience so I can objectivity see what's going on instead of being so reactive throughout the experience. So I guess these things take time. Thanks again.

Jettins 6 years ago

Thanks for the thoughts Michael. I shall be more passive with my objectivity to give more emphasis to my subjectivity during experiences. I will also try to slow down a bit during the day with more meditation.

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