Astral projection - afterlife -reincarnation

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Date: Posted 8 years before Jun 29, 2018

Darren 8 years ago

Astral experience:

When my subtle body separated from the physical I stumbled around my room and made it out onto the street in front of my house. However, I couldn’t see properly and my movement was restricted. Are there any methods to free up limbs or see better without waking myself up and coming back to the physical or is it just a case of further practice? Even though I was away from my physical body as it slept I was aware of both it and my subtle form simultaneously. Any sharp movements with my subtle body or attempts at prying my eyes open would have affected my physical thus waking me up.

Also,

Often when I dream or have astral experiences I pass into another dimension very much like the physical one which I’m used to. Usually I don’t venture far from my house and keep within a short radius which mimics the physical. Is this a cross world? I’ve met plenty of entities in my house and on a couple of occasions when I’ve astral projected I’ve only got as far as the street in front of my house, which as with last night’s experience was busy with entities. On another occasion there were a selection of spirits each with a child version side by side. My mother was there as was I both with our tiny sidekicks and there were others in the room with them also. When i say spirits I mean they were ghost like in appearance, my hand would pass through if i tried to touch. On other occasions, in this same dimension (my astral house) my dog has been lying with another dog, like they were friends. On another occasion a lizard like creature was in my room, he seemed like a friendly chap but ran off. On another occasion i was in my astral kitchen of the same house and my neighbour was out at his garage. He looked in my kitchen window and we looked at each other... Just a normal thing you'd expect to see on any given day.

Since this dimension or cross world is somewhere that my subtle body seems to enjoy... Is this the kind of place I might expect to find myself if my physical body were to die tomorrow?

If this is so and I were to end up in such an astral dimension then where does the motivation come from that urges me to seek access into the sperm of my next father? Would I with some knowledge of the subject (such as reading the info in sex you!) be able to navigate myself better than the average person? Or would we be directed by a deity or higher power as to what to do next? Or is the pull from the physical body of my next father draw me unwittingly into his sperm so I would be unconscious of the whole process?

A lot of the New Age's stuff gives the idea of sitting down for a cup of coffee, going over your past lessons and deciding when you'd like to go back to have a go at the physical game. Do we actually choose our next rebirth or do the energies of our past life direct us to a deity or higher power who will make the choice for us?

Or maybe I'm way off.

Darren

MiBeloved 8 years ago

Darren wrote:

MiBeloved’s Response:

It is a matter of further practice but it might be a bit more than just a matter, because you have to get direction in how to practice. The main way of dealing with this is to make sure that kundalini is energized twice per day. But you may need to be checked by someone who knows the practice. If kundalini is not properly energized, you may be bared the full faculty of the subtle body from time to time during astral projection. Be glad however that you are remembering any part of the experience. Everyone is astral projecting during sleep but most people have no recall of it. Thus if you are recalling anything at all and especially if you are objectively aware during the experiences, that is a big plus for you. Sometimes when using the astral body one will find that it cannot see. One might feel it moving about but then one finds that there are no eyes in the form. Or alternately one might find that one can see but one cannot move any part of the form or can move one part only. In some experiences one might find that one can fly but only in one direction and one cannot control the flying. All these are preliminary experiences. Over time one has to study how that body functions and how it is affected by diet, by lack of ventilation in the room where the physical body sleeps, by one’s thinking patterns and such other factors which cause the subtle body to be energized or de-energized.

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Darren wrote:

Even though I was away from my physical body as it slept I was aware of both it and my subtle form simultaneously. Any sharp movements with my subtle body or attempts at prying my eyes open would have affected my physical thus waking me up.

MiBeloved’s Response:

The psyche of the individual spirit is there but the core-self of that spirit is only one component in the psyche. This means that some things which transpire may not be known to that spirit, even though it is the main component. If your physical body is alive somewhere and you are not in it, then it is also a fact that your subtle body is connected to that physical form. In other words you are not always aware of that connection but it must be there if the physical body is alive somewhere. If you are in an astral projection away from the physical form and if you become aware of the physical form simultaneously, it means that your core-self has connected into the communication equipment between the astral form and the physical body. But regardless if you are connected to that or not, there is a continuous connection between the two forms. Evidence of this is as follows: My physical body is sleeping in a room in Moscow. My astral body is in Budapest, Hungary, with a woman I met on the train a week ago. I have completely forgotten everything about my Moscow concerns because I am totally absorbed with the woman on the astral side in Budapest. A fire breaks out in the building where my body is resting in Moscow. Loud fire alarms sound off in the building. I find myself back in my physical body in Moscow. I awaken physically and run out of the burning building. So what happened? The sound of the alarms entered my physical ears, the life force in the physical system accepted that as a cause for fear. It yanked my subtle body (retracted) back into the physical form. I woke up even though my subtle body did not hear the sounds. Everything was conducted by the life force which was in the physical system. The fact that my core-self was not conscious of the fire alarm did not stop the life force from taking control of the subtle body. Here is an example of the converse: After the fire in the building, I moved to another residence in Moscow. This was a more spacious accommodation. However I was still thinking about the woman in Budapest. On the first night sleeping in the other place, my subtle body again went back to find that woman. We met, her subtle body and mine. Things happened as would under those circumstances but somehow her boyfriend found her in my arms, he drew a gun and shot me. Immediately as he pulled the trigger, I found myself back again in Moscow as my physical body. The memory of the experience caused me to have a cold sweat. I rose from the bed in Moscow with bewilderment. So what happened, because I did not deliberately go to Budapest nor deliberately send my subtle body in an instant back to Moscow. This is what happened. The sound of the gun shot and the visual impressions from the astral scene were transmitted to the life force which was in the body in Moscow and that force retracted the astral body from Budapest. But this happened in a split second because the sensual information traveling between those two bodies, do so at the speed of light.

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Darren wrote:

Also, Often when I dream or have astral experiences I pass into another dimension very much like the physical one which I’m used to. Usually I don’t venture far from my house and keep within a short radius which mimics the physical. Is this a cross world?

MiBeloved’s Response:

In a way, you are lucky to have these experiences in objective consciousness. This tells you that yes, there is an adjacent astral world which is parallel to this physical place and which has features which mimic this place. But most important is that if you were to lose your body today or tomorrow, that is where you will venture to. In other words, that is your heaven right now. You would live there until you acquire another embryo.

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Darren wrote:

I’ve met plenty of entities in my house and on a couple of occasions when I’ve astral projected I’ve only got as far as the street in front of my house, which as with last night’s experience was busy with entities. On another occasion there were a selection of spirits each with a child version side by side. My mother was there as was I both with our tiny sidekicks and there were others in the room with them also. When i say spirits I mean they were ghost like in appearance, my hand would pass through if i tried to touch.

MiBeloved’s Response:

That is the adjacent parallel world where you would go if you left your body, unless you could make much more spiritual advancement. The spirits living there would be your deceased relatives who have not taken baby forms and other kindred spirits from that local area.

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Darren wrote:

On other occasions, in this same dimension (my astral house) my dog has been lying with another dog, like they were friends. On another occasion a lizard like creature was in my room, he seemed like a friendly chap but ran off. On another occasion i was in my astral kitchen of the same house and my neighbor was out at his garage. He looked in my kitchen window and we looked at each other... Just a normal thing you'd expect to see on any given day. Since this dimension or cross world is somewhere that my subtle body seems to enjoy... Is this the kind of place I might expect to find myself if my physical body were to die tomorrow?

MiBeloved’s Response:

You guess the correct conclusion. I may add that in some of these parallel worlds you will find strange creatures, sometimes one sees prehistory creatures who live there but who have long become extinct from this physical world, except for one slight difference which is that those creatures can read your thoughts and can think back into your head and communicate very clearly with you. One other specific aspect of them is that they will have this attitude of, “I belong here. I have a right to be here. You cannot remove me from here.”

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Darren wrote:

If this is so and I were to end up in such an astral dimension then where does the motivation come from that urges me to seek access into the sperm of my next father?

MiBeloved’s Response:

Now in this life, early on, now you have this information. So hustle up and get your act together, especially in regards to going back in time and seeing how you got this present body. Whatever is in the “sex you!” book might be baloney. Okay but the question remains as to how you got this present body. Describe that to me. You see what I am driving at, that even if the “sex you!” book is science fiction, still we are still left to explain how exactly we came to know ourselves as somebody’s baby etc. So if we can get that under our thumb, obviously God or no God, the situation would be solved. Let me give you a hint. The thing that wants a physical body is the subtle form. Since the core self is just one component in that form, what is the significance of its desire or lack of desire. So assuming that the core-self is a big wig, okay, so what? Suppose you are in an aircraft, you are the president of a country, a big man, but someone one of those suicide bombers got on the aircraft, then of course your bigness has little meaning. So like that if the subtle body is controlled by the life force, say or by some other component in the psyche besides the core-self, and if that component wants another physical body, then guess what is going to happen. Let me give you another hint. Earlier today I had to take an alternate route in order to pick up some item at a store which was located away from my usual route. Anyway as I was going along I saw this woman with large breast. All of a sudden I had this inclination to slow down and look at the woman’s breast. So what is that? What component in my psyche caused that? Was it my desire for that? What was it? And how did it cause all the other components of the psyche to become so diverted?

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Darren wrote:

Would I with some knowledge of the subject (such as reading the info in sex you!) be able to navigate myself better than the average person?

MiBeloved’s Response:

That is like saying that if the Titanic is sinking a sailor with a lifejacket on is better off than an ordinary passenger with a similar life jacket on who is floating next to him in the frigid cold water. Really! We know that the sailor has more information but we also know that cold water does not care about his knowledge. As far as the water is concerned the sailor will also die with all his nautical information.

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Darren wrote:

Or would we be directed by a deity or higher power as to what to do next?

MiBeloved’s Response:

This is a possibility. It is possible that perhaps the sailor has on a special wet suit that could cause him to survive longer in frigid water. And it could be that he does have a radio beacon which could give off a signal for rescue. But that is the problem with religion, you never know if that deity will really show up. Somewhere in the Old Testament, I remember reading about this guy, I think his name was Elijah and they said they saw a celestial chariot take him off when his physical body died. So if we take that at face value and give the good book an honest hearing in faith, that would mean that such things do happen.

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Darren wrote:

Or is the pull from the physical body of my next father draw me unwittingly into his sperm so I would be unconscious of the whole process?

MiBeloved’s Response:

This could very well be. Sex attraction may be the chief cause of rebirth.

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Darren wrote:

A lot of the New Age’s stuff gives the idea of sitting down for a cup of coffee, going over your past lessons and deciding when you'd like to go back to have a go at the physical game.

MiBeloved’s Response:

I like these ideas. They are very nice because they afford me independence and selection. But I cannot recall having that this time around before taking this body. As a baby I did not have such freedoms either. An existential bill of rights? Right now I am in America. We are into freedom. I am all for it.

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Darren wrote:

Do we actually choose our next rebirth or do the energies of our past life direct us to a deity or higher power who will make the choice for us?

MiBeloved’s Response:

That is deep. I will suffice to say this: Irrespective of a deity or higher power, the resultant energies of your behavior in this life will be a major determining factor as to your next location.

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