Astral Experience Last Night

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Date: Posted 7 years before Jul 13, 2018

Dean 7 years ago

Before retiring to bed last night, I performed my pranayama practice then meditated for about 30 - 40 minutes. Moments after lying down, I witnessed my subtle body wiggle itself out of the physical form and take off into the night sky where I could see clouds and stars for miles. I thought maybe I could reach Michael in the astral world. When suddenly I observed another subtle form flying off in the distance with its arms outstretched like superman. I thought, I can do that too so I outstretched my arms which caused an increase in speed. Shortly after, I touched down in a large body of water, as I descended under the water I thought to grasp for air but another split second later. I became amused by the thought as the subtle body floated back to the surface. As I outstretched my arms to propel myself out of the water. I felt something or someone grasp my leg around my calf area. Startled momentarily, I found myself back in the physical form with a smile on my face.

MiBeloved 7 years ago

This is an incomplete description and a very careless way of dealing with astral experiences. First you must be congratulated on having this clear perception of what your astral body was doing. Always keep in mind that when someone says that they have no astral experiences or that they do not dream, that really means that they have no recall of their astral bodies’ activities when it is separated from the physical system during sleep.

So you must be appraised for this recall which for most people does not happen. Sometimes even people who become somewhat versed at meditation do not remember these astral deeds and so for them it is like there is no astral world or astral life, due to a lack of recall and due to their conscious minds not being in a position to register what is taking place in the astral world.

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Dean wrote:

Moments after lying down, I witnessed my subtle body wiggle itself out of the physical form and take off into the night sky where I could see clouds and stars for miles.

MiBeloved’s Response:

Who witnessed? Where was the witness located? Was the witness in the subtle body, in the physical body or in both simultaneously?

Location is a big item in kriya yoga because we want distinction and we want to eliminate confusion and vagueness. Remember that if I don’t know where I am then to me I am anywhere or even everywhere, and that is due to a lack of the proper sense perception even if it is an increase in consciousness.

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Dean wrote:

I thought maybe I could reach Michael in the astral world. When suddenly I observed another subtle form flying off in the distance with its arms outstretched like superman. I thought, I can do that too so I outstretched my arms which caused an increase in speed.

MiBeloved’s Response:

So this is natural that the mind tries to find some physical reference for what happens astrally. So in Christian theology we have stories of angels with wings. Just yesterday I was in California and a lady was taking out her Christmas ornaments and she had some which depicted angels with wings.

Really, do the angels in the angelic world need wings to fly about as if there is gravity there like on this planet, where they have to create an updraft to fly upwards? Well I doubt that you could prove that. It is baloney.

So the mind in your case not being hung up on Christianity is hung up on Marvel Comics. Great!

So work on that to free yourself from that. But it is an alert that even if you pass off and go to an angelic world, you will be drawn back down into physical existence because that is your main reference. You know it is real funny when I meet people who talk about their spiritual life in lofty terms and who in their minds are simply physical-existence-based. They are not going to any higher world because their minds just will not permit it but there is no harm for them of course in hoping for the best, hoping for heaven and the light and all that.

So work on this flying business some more and then tell us if you can what you think is the real reason and the real basis for the astral body’s ability to fly. Cause if it is not wings and if it is not putting out your arm as illustrated in the Marvel Comics, and then what is it?

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Dean wrote:

I felt something or someone grasp my leg around my calf area. Startled momentarily, I found myself back in the physical form with a smile on my face.

MiBeloved’s Response:

This is important that anytime there is danger or threat of danger, the astral body is immediately recalled to the physical system. I have repeatedly explained that a person should not fear astral projection nor fear that he or she will be locked out of the body, because the astral body is always yanked back into the physical body if there is danger, and even if there is no danger in fact but if there is a conception of danger.

Pay close attention to this because we were discussing kundalini and one of the important features of kundalini is that it is the system which yanks the astral body back into the physical system. If you do not understand kundalini and get it curbed you will never control the astral system, no matter what you say you are capable of.

Find out what it is that yanks that astral body into the physical system. What psychic mechanism completes that act?

And find out if that psychic mechanism leaves the physical body, if you will be able to re-enter that body ever again?

Dean 7 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

So the mind in your case not being hung up on Christianity is hung up on Marvel Comics. Great!

So work on that to free yourself from that.

Dean's reply:

In Meditation Expertise, pg.117 Verse 20

Pantanjali states: The perceiver is the pure extent of the consciousness but its conviction is patterned by what it perceives.

Is this what you are referring to or am I off the path?

MiBeloved 7 years ago

I agree that this is an application of that verse by Patanjali.

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