Astral Bodies Gone Wild
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Dec 04, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Last night I was in the astral world in South America with a relative who is long deceased and who now has a body which is less than 30 years of age. The incidence was caused by the attachment in the former life of this relative, where the person was materialistic and much attached to the circumstance of the adult body in that life.
I was drawn into the astral place because this person contributed to the parenting duties of the body I am now using. Because of that contribution, this person even though transmigrated into another life, still has a force over my body.
Perhaps the most appalling thing about the experience is the fact that this person has no idea that the subtle bodies are acting in this way. In other words, the subtle bodies act out fantasies, desires and fulfillments without any consultation with the objective conscious mind of the person or persons involved.
Can you accept this?
Do you think that you are in control of all your psychic activities, that you are aware of each and every one?
Do you think that your subtle body would dare to act out situations on the astral planes with your total ignorance of what takes place?
One way to look at this is to consider that the physical body sleep-walks. How is it possible for a person’s physical body to act in a way which transcends the observing self which uses that body?
Is that ever happening?
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When I was at that astral place, some flash-backs occurred where I could distinctly recall incidences from childhood just as if these incidences happened yesterday. These long forgotten incidences which usually I could not recall were present in the mind in great detail. During the experience, I wondered about this, about the operation of memory.
Sometimes you are so far away from a memory (existential distance) that it is not possible to pick it up and read it in the mind. It is like that manuscript which your great great great grandfather buried in a chest, which was flooded long long ago, so that if you open the chest you can only see dust from the deteriorated paper. But this same paper suddenly comes to its original condition and can be read legibly.
So how is that possible to see clearly what one did in an astral circumstance like that and then not have access to that memory from the present observational consciousness?
During the experience, the relative who was an elderly person when I was a kid growing up, wanted me to own a car so that she could be driven about the City. This is the city of Georgetown in Guyana.
In the experience, I was thinking of how crazy desires are and how the human civilization even begins wars just on the basis of desires to acquire things.
Jettins 6 years ago
I visit many places similar to that all the time. As a matter of fact I went to a community with people today #751. The interesting thing about this place was that everyone there knew they had died. Some of them seem to be unstable with their thinking, very quickly causing issues without cause. It was during the daytime as I stepped outside of my house. It became night time as the experience progressed which was long. I spoke to a 3 or 4 people directly from some time.
All of them had issues that I seem to be able make better. In very short I tried to make them see the positive side of things, to make them happy out of bad situations. After about what felt 30 minutes, oh they changed, the community changed for the better. I do not remember many details of what I said, but I have some ideas on the type of stuff I must have said to them. They started working cooperatively when before they seem to be only looking out for themselves. A party was created to celebrate that things were better. The night sky became beautiful. It’s interesting how people are able to change things, their entire environment and what they may or may not experience just with the power of their thoughts.
Even though they are not able to consciously change the issues that cause their subconscious (state of being, psyche, and subtle body), that manifest their inner chaotic reality, they can at least make themselves temporarily feel better about their miserable existence. What else can be hoped for in such an ignorant state? I told them they should continue to be happy and co-operate even after I left. I left things for them to do, knowing this would make it better for them at least temporarily. Who knows, maybe the dream I saw in the past was actually this same community in the future, when those residents had found a way to move on. Did I help? I would like to think so, they at least became happy. Let’s try to look at the brighter side of things, even in bad situations as this will not harm us.
"The subtle bodies act out fantasies, desires and fulfillments without any consultation with the objective conscious mind of the person or persons involved."
Great statement requires re-stating it. If there is an interest in the details of #751 ask away and I'll share more observations about it.
