Astral Alarm

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Date: Posted 6 years before Sep 20, 2018

Dean 6 years ago

This morning just before I rose from bed to do my pranayama session about 5:00 am, I was in the astral world with my mother. We were on the astral side of the current house owned by my parents in Bolingbrook, Illinois. I lived in this house the majority of this present life from ages 10 to 27. She and I were in the kitchen where I recall the entire room being intensely bright, like being in the middle of Times Square in New York City. She was preparing a meal by the stove and I was standing up near the sink having a conversation with her about some of my friends and events that were going on in my life currently. We had done this on several occasions when I lived there. I guess about 5 to 10 minutes after the conversation began, I could hear a soft beeping noise in the background. It took me a few seconds to recognize the sound, then I realized it was the alarm on my phone next to my physical body that I set to wake me for my pranayama exercises. Within fractions of a second, I was instantaneously transferred back to my physical body where I awoke in a completely dark room in Brooklyn, NY to shut off the alarm.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Dean wrote:

I guess about 5 to 10 minutes after the conversation began, I could hear a soft beeping noise in the background. It took me a few seconds to recognize the sound, then I realized it was the alarm on my phone next to my physical body that I set to wake me for my pranayama exercises. Within fractions of a second, I was instantaneously transferred back to my physical body where I awoke in a completely dark room in Brooklyn, NY to shut off the alarm.

MiBeloved's Response:

Deliberate astral projection is not more important than realizing an astral projection which was conducted by the routine daily separation of the subtle body from the physical one during sleep. It requires a shift in priorities and focus from physical to astral.

Suppose I am a great meditator. I am known as a person who sits still for hours but I am not aware of the subtle body as something that is separate from the physical form. Then how is that?

It means that I am practicing to transcend gross bodily consciousness but only in reference to the physical body. This is not sufficient. This has much value so long as I am using a physical body and am the master of my reality here in the physical life at this time on planet earth. As soon as that physical body is finished I will lose that reference and my master of reality skill will go up in smoke, because it will no longer apply. My job will be gone. My house will be gone. My family will be taken away from me. All forms of reference will be gone. What will be my reference for transcendence then?

This is why it is important to study the subtle body now while it is present in a very abstract way. At the time of death all that will be left is the subtle body. If I take the time to study it now, then at that time I will be in more of a position of mastership over it, just as I have become a master of the physical body which I keep in order from day to day, by brushing the teeth, combing the hair, getting an automobile that was designed to accommodate it, getting a college degree, having a good income from my job, marrying a beautiful woman and so on.

Coming back from an astral experience into the physical reality is one of the major ways of studying astral projection. This is because nature has the astral projection system under secrecy in such a way that it is hardly likely that you will get to realize how you leave the physical body and go off in the astral one. Nature does this but hides this from the self which is involved in this.

Don’t bother with why nature is hiding this, just think of a way of secretly noticing what nature is doing, how nature operates this. Be like the guy who caught himself in the act of sleep waking and then got happy about the whole madness of it. Caught nature, not yourself, in the act of having astral projected you in your subtle body. Forget all that stuff about how you are God and how you are infinite and how you are Christ. And just accept that you are not much of anything. Be happy knowing that you are under the thumb of nature, being conveyed by nature here and there through various species of life, with just fractional control in the whole matter. Once you see this and accept yourself as such, as a mere straw in the schemes of nature, then you can make rapid progress, you can get some knowledge by observing what nature is doing.

Did I cause myself to have sex after puberty? Was that my choice, the choice that I made like people say? What I can do, honestly speaking, is to observe how nature caused me to have sex after puberty. I can then describe to you what nature causes me to do. That description is called carnal knowledge. In the same way one should catch oneself in an astral projection which nature already produced. One should observe what takes place.

I concur what happened in this experience where you heard the alarm which was near your physical body. This is one of the ways in which I mastered astral projection awareness by noticing how the astral body will hear what is going on near the physical form or by observing the anxiety the astral body goes through while in an astral projection, if the astral system gets a message from the physical brains or physical memory about some urgency, like getting to work at a certain time.

I have many memories of this type of experience in the early days in this body when I was making the effort to catch nature in its action of projecting me out of the physical body without my knowledge of it. Here is one experience which took place around 1970. I was in the Philippines. My physical body was sleeping at an air base, near Angeles City. I did not know how the astral body was projected. I did not observe that. Nature did that after putting the self out of conscious commission. I realized that I had astral projected when I became aware of myself in the astral body in Trinidad which was some 10,700 miles away. This is the distance which a jet would travel for about 22 hours to cover.

So I was in my astral body there because I used to live there during my teen years. I had friends there to whom my astral form was much attached. Suddenly in my astral head, I got this feeling that I should leave because I would have to be at work at about 7.30 am. I used to work at an air force lab calibrating avionics equipment.

Even though I had realized that I was in the astral body, I did not have the astral discrimination with me. I had the physical discrimination with me. These are two distinctly separate discriminations in the astral body. For some reason, and only nature knows why perhaps, I did not have the astral discrimination. As such I was left to figure out how to get back to work at 7.30 am and this was when it was about 6.00am in the Philippines.

Interestingly because I only had the physical discrimination with me which was applicable to the physical world and its distances and restrictions, I did not at the time realize that physically it was impossible to cross 10,700 miles in one hour. I told my friends that I had to get to the airport to catch a plane since I had to get back to work. They looked at me in alarm and disappointment because they wanted to hang out more. Trinidadians males like nothing better but to hang out, listening to music while drinking liquor and talking about their exploits with females.

I immediately left them and went out to catch a taxi for the airport. As soon as I started on the road for the taxi, I found myself waking up as my physical body in the Philippines. I never caught a cab. I never even reached the airport.

So that is an idea of how the astral body operates and also how the memories and reference operate. Nature is conducting these operations with full control, with us, the big mouths as just little complimentary factors, going along for the ride, sometimes conscious and sometimes unconscious. And this is why I say that these observations are a big part of self realization, a big part of studying what you will be after the physical body dies.

As you become more and more aware of these experiences, try not to get back in a hurry. Try to get back without any anxiety over it. Then you might begin observing the speed of travel of the subtle body, otherwise it will always be that it is in Chicago and then suddenly as if by magic it is in NY. Believe it or not, it takes time for the astral body to travel. It is almost magical and instant but it does take time. If you are not in anxiety then you might notice its travel. Then when you notice that, you might also notice how it synchronizes into the physical body and how your sense of self shifts from the astral to the physical when that happens.

Sense of self is not something to get rid of, because you cannot do that anyway. It is something to make a detailed study. Mastership of self is deep study of senses of self and its applications.

Dean 6 years ago

Michael wrote:

Dean's comment:

Everything happened so fast that when I returned to the physical body, I was very unsure of what took place. It seemed as if the memory/recording of that experience was stored in a different location which was not accessible when I returned to the physical reality. It was because of the different lighting in the two locations that I was able to be certain that I was in two separate bodies. Thank you for the encouragement and I will keep posting my astral experiences as I continue to catch nature in the act.

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