A ghost takes food energy
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Dec 12, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Last night I had an unusual experience where a person who is deceased came to me to get some energy. This was a person who was like a parent to me when I lived in Trinidad around 1966.
For the past year or so I am seeing this person about once per week in the astral world. But last night this person came to my side and energy began to ooze out of my psyche from under the lowest right rib. It went into the deceased person’s subtle body. That person was feeling some relief from this and said that it was filling, like taking meals.
I checked the energy to see the consistency and quality of it. It was a mixture of etheric air energy and food nutrients energy. I understood that this person was thinking of eating physical food and was starved in the astral world for that. Somehow because of a relationship I had with this person so many years ago, my subtle body was contributing the subtle food energy this person needed.
After this, about 20 minutes after, another person who was the friend of this person and who is now deceased as well came there and the same thing happened where energy from my right torso by the lowest rib began to flow over into that person’s psyche.
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The value of this experience to a pranayama yogi, is that if one does not get rid of the need for physical food before passing from the body, one will feel hungry in the astral world for physical foodstuff and one will again ardently seek out another material body. This is due to the subtle body needing to have a physical form as its compliment. So unless one can change this tendency in the subtle body one will for sure come out again as someone’s baby just to get access to physical food.
Just as those two deceased persons were able to take energy from my subtle body on the basis of my eating of physical food, so in the hereafter one will be attracted to someone who eats physical food and one will eventually enter into that person’s psyche and come out again in the world as that person’s baby.
I did go into details about this in the “sex you!” book.
If one does pranayama then one might be able to change the subtle body so that it does not have this need for a complimentary physical form. The direct cause of taking one material body after another is the subtle body’s dire need for physical experience, and to get that one has to eat physical food.
unlimitedsun 6 years ago
So it does happen, this is tantamount to astral cannibalism.
I have heard it before, that such things happen in the astral world. Actually, in Mali and I am sure other African countries, and perhaps the world around; they will accuse old women (most of the time) of being witches (in that context it means those that eat people from the astral, specifically that). There are many such stories, kind of like in the movie "Rosemary's baby".
When my mom was here this summer she actually told us a story where she saw an old woman friend of hers in a dream, and the woman was inviting her to come eat some red meat. My mom said that from the woman’s appearance in the dream she figured what was going on, and desisted. First thing in the morning she went to address the woman, she said that she told her: "You witch! You shall not eat me! never!..."
We listened to her story, and looked at each other thinking there you go again, these folks and their outmoded believes. Especially, that some months prior I had watched an unusually disturbing u-tube video of a village in Kenya where they were actually burning alive a handful of old people who had been accused of such a craft.
My gosh, so many the ways the feeding and exploiting! And, those being who feed of certain emotions...?
To return to the value of the experience:
MiBeloved wrote:
The value of this experience to a pranayama yogi, is that if one does not get rid of the need for physical food before passing from the body...
unlimitedsun's reply:
Swami, are you suggesting breatharianism?
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Breatharianism!!!!!!!
You have coined a new word but it is a good description of what a successful pranayama yogi is.
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One of the reasons that elderly women are accused and not men, is due to the fact that generally men do not live longer than women. Usually age wise, women out-survive men.
One other reason is that people (males and females alike) expect women to be smooth skin and plump as contrasted to muscular hard bodied men. Hence in the elderly years people exhibit more prejudice to female bodies than to male ones.
However both sexes suffer the same fate and must deal with the needs of the subtle body in terms of its wanting to always have a complimentary physical form.
Recall the attitude of your mother towards the ghosts. Review her harshness even though she is female herself, and will face the same fate when her body reaches old age and then she loses it and becomes a hungry ghost.
A yogi cannot have that kind of attitude but would instead give the poor ghost-woman some energy and then advise her how to facilitate getting a new body as soon as possible. Of course the yogi would not permit her to take energy unless that was done in a non-harmful way.
In my experience because I knew the woman and because she was like a mother to me early on when I was in Trinidad, I could not under the circumstance prevent her from taking the energy. All the same it does not mean that I was not vigilant. One has to be.
unlimitedsun 6 years ago
Oh, I may not take credit any for the term, as it has been the ultimate fad out there.
But of course without the prana a fad is all it can be, should it not be fatal to the organic body that is.
Now, definitely another extraordinary and even exciting added challenge to the path!
Yes, very true and sobering about how that works as you have explained. Attempting the yogic way I see that it is always necessary for me to take a step back first and then react to a given situation. The yogic response is not the ordinary one, it is a thinking process that not only takes into account the subtle but also originates from the subtle.
Other things that they say is that when you have participated in an offered meal in the astral world, then your turn will come to bring "someone" to the table for others to feast on. And of course that will be someone you know, hopefully close enough to...it is interesting that a friend of your relative joined in on you. In that sense it is accurate that it is not a one way street.
And the bias is definitely prevalent on the physical side unlike the subtle. A wealthy or educated woman will never be shun as a "ghoul". In those societies the discrimination for the aforementioned reasons is against lonely and disposed females as a result of divorce, widowhood and/or childlessness and subsequently poor as well as skinny or hungry looking.
Mothers become very concerned should such a woman get a glimpse of the naked body of their child...
This particular discrimination is not the case in the movie "Rosemary's baby" an old movie I saw years ago. It was quiet an aha moment. Astonishing it was to see what I considered an obscure and distant, and perhaps exclusive aspect of my African culture so intimately depicted in a Western context. Well, now because it is from the subtle side it all makes sense; it is universal, and plainly human!
For the adventurous eyes Rosemary's baby is more or less a thriller category whereas another old Italian movie of the same generation and concept "Suspiria" (that I saw as a child) is right up horror and some paranormal.
I appreciate entertaining this exchange on a very real yet peculiar aspect of a serious situation that can arise in the subtle dimension unbeknownst to one, and the practical advice to hopefully approach the situation with.
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MiBeloved wrote:
All the same it does not mean that I was not vigilant. One has to be.
unlimitedsun's reply:
Those who are capable of exercising this vigilance are clearly in an advantageous position namely yogis, non-yogis or psychics (even as the mother of my body who generally retains a degree of lucidity in dreams...). Otherwise there would ensue undue drainage of the subtle form in turn resulting in weakness and illness of the organic energy... Indeed, subtle cannibalism or vampirism!
Another instance for me to readjust and validate anew aspects of the culture of my childhood I had come view as obscure and distant. The scientific, the observable and rationale as the Cartesian model alone are only self validating based on their own mode of reference which does not include the subtle dimension, once again.
