A foothold in Siddhaloka

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Date: Posted 5 years before Sep 01, 2017

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Breath Infusion and meditation this morning were routine. Again I was working on the base area of the subtle body. I worked on the feet, legs, forearms and fingers. These are hard to reach areas which are usually neglected as yogis focus on raising kundalini into the brain. Sooner or later a yogi is confronted with the fact that even if kundalini is raised to brahmarandra, if other areas of the psyche remain with heavy low grade astral energy, those impurities will cause a return to the lower planes of existence after there is an experience of brahmananda or spiritual bliss experience.

The way out is to face the music by getting a method for confronting the low grade astral energy through which one can effectively (not imaginary or visualization wise) take out that energy and replace it with high grade pranic energy from higher planes.

If the subtle body, all parts of it, are clarified before the time of death of the physical form, then the yogi has bought a ticket to the siddhaloka realms where the mahayogins reside. Going to that place in the afterlife the student can get further instructions about securing in a foothold in the spiritual atmospheres.

This is for students who are persons here and who want to secure their persons there in the afterlife but with a spiritual configuration which is beyond the lower astral existence which disembodied souls usually have to be content with.

Jivana Kennedy 5 years ago

So, that's a secure seat?

As in a one way non-refundable ticket for the Higher Plane?

How does one KNOW that, in the way something is securely known?

What kind of belief is required for this kind of 'knowing'?

Marcia Beloved 5 years ago

Michael wrote:

Marcia Beloved's query:

In this post, does the term psyche refer to the entire subtle body?

Is psyche synonymous to subtle body?

MiBeloved 5 years ago

In this usage, psyche is the subtle body. However when the word psyche is used, it stresses using the subtle body while doing inSelf yoga. When the subtle body is seen as a utility to maneuver in the astral world, then the word psyche has no prominence.

As a psyche, the subtle body itself is a whole domain, a whole subtle world.

As a subtle body, it is used to explore a domain which is external to itself, the so called astral world.

A subtle body is one system, one person but a psyche is a system with components one of which is a core-self or spiritual person.

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Jivana Kennedy's query:

As in a one way non-refundable ticket for the Higher Plane?

How does one KNOW that, in the way something is securely known?

What kind of belief is required for this kind of 'knowing'?

MiBeloved’s Response:

There are some factors which are required for this to happen. Here is a list:

1. Association with advanced yogis on the physical and/or the astral planes.

2. Information from reliable yoga books like Yoga Sutras and Bhagavad Gita.

3. Valid yoga practice which will yield the result intended.

4. Verification in astral projections of the existence of the astral world.

Regarding #1, if one can find an advanced yogi who currently uses a material body, that is the easier and most definite course. Still that course is not as easy as it seems because one would have to submit for training under that person’s tutelage. That submission is not easy. The other thing that hampers that is that one’s social obligations may prohibit one from the association in the sense that one might not be able to relocate or one may not have the time to devout to that association because of having to generate an income for family support and other obligations.

The most difficult part is to find a yogi in the astral world who is advanced. There are many such yogis but finding them is a problem. First unless such a yogi wants to give association to a certain person, that yogi cannot be found by that person. It is not like in physical existence which is one dimensional in the sense that if I am located at 10 Downing Street, you can locate me there for sure, if you go through the premises. Physically there is no way that I can transit my body into any other dimension. It remains locked into the solid shape dimension.

In the astral world if I am at a certain address and you go to locate me there, I can give you the slip real easy by just lowering or enhancing the vibrational rate of my subtle body. So it is not possible to find superior yogis because they have this power of invisibility.

So how do I locate them?

I don’t. My secret is that they locate me. What happens is that if you raise the vibration of your subtle body, then sometimes a yogi from a higher plane will notice that and may come to talk to you to render assistance in your spiritual progress.

To reach a great yogin, one should practice whatever discipline that person taught and as one advances that yogin will sense the improvement and may then come to one’s aid.

Even if one follows instructions from a book written by a great yogin, this could happen, even if the person was deceased for hundreds or thousands of years.

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Regarding #2, the reading of books which were written by or about senior yogis or the Supreme Person Krishna or the Supreme Person Shiva, is required in most cases. There are exceptions of persons who had no access to such books and who made the progress to siddhaloka anyway. For instance there were Taoist masters in China who did so.

These books do a double assistance: as a map and as a source of morale for disheartened yogis who face great opposition from the majority of human beings who are against the required austerities.

As a map these books give the yogi a sense of direction and alert the yogi of what he or she should be experiencing on the way up. Without confidence one cannot make advancement. These books can award that faith to a yogi who is bogged down by social resistance which penetrates his or her mind from others who are adverse to yoga.

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Regarding #3, a yogi must have a valid process which will yield the intended results. If one does not have this, one will spend weeks, months or years cultivating methods which lead to a dead-end.

The first thing one has to admit is that whatever process one uses, if it was not mastered before, it is not going to work. This is because the human psyche is the same now as it was from the first instance of humans being manifested on this planet. Essentially the layout of the subtle body is the same. Thus the method of freedom is still the same.

There is however many variations and novel ways in which a person enters into the discipline but at some point it becomes streamlined and the course laid out in the Yoga Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita, must be followed.

There can be exceptions to this like for instance someone goes to spiritual perfection just by the grace of a deity (Krishna, Shiva, Devi) but you have to be sure that you were singled out for that. If you were not singled out for that then it is in your interest to dig up and take up the disciplines which were suggested by Krishna, Shiva or Devi.

Once the Deity makes it clear that you have to endeavor, asking for grace is futile. Uddhava is a case of a person who asked for that but who was told by Krishna to do the austerities at Badrinath.

In the Anu Gita, Arjuna was upbraided by Krishna when Arjuna asked for a live replay of the Universal Form experience and the infusement of supernatural energy into his subtle body. Krishna refused to indulge Arjuna one more time.

Arjuna and his brothers had to hustle up in the end and resume the austerities which they left aside while enjoying the luxurious royal life.

My life is an example of yogi who got the grace of the deity in the form of instructions to complete the austerities. Grace is not always an energy for easy transit. Sometimes grace comes as an inspiration for digging up to get out.

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Regarding #4, a yogin does not have to master astral projection or be an expert at Out-Of-The-Body-Experiences (OBE). The accomplishment of the yogi is to be aware when the astral projection takes place.

In psychic practice, mastery of astral projection is a must but in yoga, the yogi has to gain mastery of objective awareness when astral projection takes places. Take the example of a train. There should be a conductor in the first section, the engine body. Then there should be passengers in the powerless carriages.

The psychic people want to take the position of the conductor. A yogi has no interest in that. There is already a conductor of astral projection which is the kundalini, so the yogi will let the kundalini do its job, while the yogi stays alert as a passenger.

A yogi’s concern with the conductor (kundalini) is with its training and inclination. So a yogi does kundalini yoga separately to achieve control over the mind of the conductor. In time the yogi develops the authority to say this to the conductor,

“You can do your work but only in my interest. Do not take this train to locations which are counter produce to my yogic aims.”

Kundalini however is a wayward force and it will not do what anyone says, even the core-self unless that core-self has mastered kundalini yoga by any which means.

Alfredo 5 years ago

MB wrote: [Regarding #4, a yogin does not have to master astral projection or be an expert at Out-Of-The-Body-Experiences (OBE). The accomplishment of the yogi is to be aware when the astral projection takes place.]

Alfredo's Reply:

I am glad to notice this as I had already experienced a few OBEs and was putting my energy into the experience itself and the developing of it per se. Instead, I see that the practice of Kundalini Yoga, if done correctly, shall produce the necessary awareness.

Jivana Kennedy 5 years ago

Nice! Very, very nice!!!

Jettins 5 years ago

Hello, Very interesting post.

This in an interesting post indeed. If you want to enter the established higher realms one would need the instructions to do so, this makes sense. The guides I encounter which lately seem to be more available than before and aren't yogis, but other beings that seem to have a foothold on how the Astral Realms operate. They seem to be able to drop to the level where we can work together.

They have amazing psychic abilities and are able to travel through time and adjust time for others. I do not know how "advance" these being are really, but they are not your average dumb folk of the astral. They seem to have mastered dimensional jumps and are able to make sense of astral existence. They have an interest in me since #263. Much of the more wild stuff I haven't spoken about here, but I will at one point.

I need help writing because I am a very slow writer and even slower redactor. A secretary would be a blessing. I would like to meet an advanced yogi to see what he has to say at one point in the future. Bullet point 2 and 3 I have neglected but will boast efficiency as I go.

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