Thank you! For the opportunity to debate and question practices. It is beneficial.

Saying that the atma is affected by the senses, I am not meaning in the same manner as the physical body or the subtle body. I want to say that it is helpless and therefore victimized.

But I can also see that the atma as stated in most religious belief system is not affected. It is not of the same nature as anything else, therefore in absolute terms it is contradictory to say that it is greatly affected, by any-thing for that matter, pun intended.