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paulaponcho wrote:

i have a little over 3 weeks clean today. i haven't had this much time clean in so long. i don't want to be on the suboxone for any longer than i have to. i think that in order for this suboxone treatment to truly work i have to make major inner and outer changes. i'm not sure what that looks like... when i stop taking the suboxone i want to have a solid foundation so i don't go back to the rubble i know so well.

MiBeloved's Response:

Okay how about explaining who you associate with. Yes, the heroin was it and now you are taking help from suboxone to get away from heroin. Heroin however which is just from a plant species is a saturation energy from a lower astral world and it is watching you because it does not want you to escape. But if you escape from it and get trapped in suboxone, then that would be like escaping from one prison into another prison. You know like when they build two prisons side by side with a wall between the two.

Then a prisoner, like yourself in one prison, finds a weak place in the wall, breaks through and goes over to the other prison. The prisoner feels it is better on the other side of that wall and he is happy that at least he escaped from the original jail. But actually he went from one lock-up to the other.

Okay but what about association. Nobody, not you, not me, is so strong that we can live without the approval and recognition of someone else. Recently in Norway, Anders Breivik, a lone person, killed several people based on a racist motive. He was alone and operated for the most part alone. But he needed recognition. So we find that each of us have this need for recognition.

Who was giving you recognition and approval for the heroin habit? Even if it was astral beings, those are still a form of association. Without that you could not have the habit. Influence has to be there. Never mind the ideas that we are independent and do not need approval.

So now who will be your friends, suboxone addicts? Will I be your friend? I am a hard person as a friend because I will get on your case and insult you seriously if you do not shed off this habit and find a way to make yourself productive in our human species of life.

I am a mean friend to any of my friends who fuck-up, who are irresponsible, who think that we can do whatever we want to do and cause any type of effect in the world without considering the fly back reactions and the damage inflicted on others.

By fuck-up I don’t mean it as a cuss word (profanity), only as a way of speaking to make you understand the gravity. If we are to be friends then you have to have a value for the friendship and it comes at a price, which is that you are going to get yourself in order, not to please the world, not necessarily to please me either but to be useful to other human beings and not to selfishly live just for your own satisfaction and pleasure.

I know what I am talking about. My body is now 61 years of age and when it was around 15 I used to hang out with my buddies, going to parties and cinema down in the West Indies. Then later I moved to the USA and I used to hang out with guys who played music, took laced weed, acid, cocaine and even black opium which came to the Philippines from Burma. So I know about that kind of selfish life, where you don’t give a damn about anybody else except the persons whom you indulge with and you feel you have all the answers.

You feel you can overthrow the establishment or least tell them to fuck off. So all that happens in this life due to one thing which is association. Our parents hardly have an input into such things. But then later when I began to get children, I abandoned those associations. They were not helpful in that area, they were counterproductive in being attentive to a family.

Like that you have to make up your mind. Being friends with me is a hard bargain because I won’t condone any dope taking. It is crap and it will eventually see to it that you are in the gutter and who will dig your ass out of there.

I won’t be doing it because if you have no concern for yourself and if God is going to just let you slide down then that is okay with me. If God comes and tells me to help you then I will do that with a passion and I won’t let you stay down in the lower area but God has not told me that, so I am not seeing it as my mission. You can slide down as far as you can tolerate and when you hit that level where you feel that this is the lowest you will go, then you will look up and call and maybe then I can talk some sense into your head.

To be friends with me you have to agree to come up, to come out of the lower area. I am here to help you but I am not going to beg your ass to come up. No, slide further if you feel there is something more you can suck out of that existence down there. I am doing good up here and I am not going to come down one inch in the hole but I am here so long as God is permitting and if you want help then stretch up with all the strength which is remaining in you and we can get you out and going.

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What is Suboxone?

Suboxone contains a combination of buprenorphine and naloxone. Buprenorphine is an opioid medication. Buprenorphine is similar to other opioids such as morphine, codeine, and heroin however, it produces less euphoric ("high") effects and therefore may be easier to stop taking.

Naloxone blocks the effects of opioids such as morphine, codeine, and heroin. If Suboxone is injected, naloxone will block the effects of buprenorphine and lead to withdrawal symptoms in a person with an opioid addiction. When administered under the tongue as directed, naloxone will not affect the actions of buprenorphine.

So one compound of this drug is a no-no because it is from the same opioid family. It will eventually cause you to enter a lower species of life and in that place you won’t have a care in the world, no responsibilities. You will be able to wander around, eat grass, shit wherever you like, fuck whom you can indulge and do whatever your little heart can desire in that species including eating narcotic plants. If this is the tomorrow you are after, then you are on the right track.

The so called beneficial drug in the compound is Naloxone which is an opioid inverse agonist, but that does not mean that it is a good drug. It is another terrible drug like escaping from a lion and then meeting with a jaguar. At first the lion might decide not to eat you because his enemy and fellow predator is on the scene.

When they fight the jaguar may accidentally kill the lion, and then what. Who will it eat then?

Jettins 6 years ago

Very interesting post thanks Michael, I am wondering about the spiritual effects of caffeine and all toxins now. I mostly drink decaf now but there's still a bit of caffeine in it.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Best thing is to stay away from all intoxicants, depressants and stimulants.

Best thing is to try to work with sober consciousness and do yoga to change that to a higher awareness and increased psychic perception.

Protect the subtle body so that it does not become reliant on substances.

If I become addicted to anything for the purpose of mood alteration, then what will happen when I leave the body? Will I still be addicted? Will the astral body carry those addictions or not? Are these addictions only a physical reality? Or are they also a psychological habit as well?

Suppose I am addicted to pot, then will I get that in the astral world after leaving this body? Where will I have to go to get it? In what astral domain? Here on earth if I want to smoke pot in certain cities, I have to do it under cover or I will end up in jail. Or I can move to a state or a county where it is permitted. Or I can move to the jungle where police are not in effect in some undeveloped country.

Each seeker needs to check it out to see what will happen as a result of certain habits. One should act for a long term benefit unless one cannot do so because one is too weak to adjust certain habits.

The book the Anu Gita Explained goes into details about how this life now causes certain consequences in the future. That is the place to look for an explanation from Krishna. In my opinion, his information about reincarnation is the most reliable.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

If I become addicted to anything for the purpose of mood alteration, then what will happen when I leave the body? Will I still be addicted?

Jettins' reply:

I think there is a fine line between biological and psychological addictions, but there's still a line I think. It appears that all sorts of biological factors do indeed affect the subtle body. These damaging or beneficial factors become our state of being when we move on after physical death. But the psychological factors can also be very detrimental.

Since the state of being determines what a person might have access to after physical death, (or the subtle body as Micheal would call it) and the state of being is determine by the psyche, (dimension in which one falls into) we should take a look at the things that affect the psychological self, not only the physical body me included.

In other words, biological and psychological addictions.

I was looking at Anu Gita Explained the review and book description in amazon.com is amazing!  This is the sort of information I was looking for. I will make this book the first read!

I wish things turn out well for you Paulaponcho!